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  • glenn.ma
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 608

    AR-308 Optic Advice

    I recently purchased a COLT LE901-16S http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/Colt...tLE90116S.aspx

    I have my Benelli M4 and COLT LE6940CA for CQB.

    CQB is not a factor as a result.

    Would 5-20x50 be overkill?

    I am leaning towards the Trijicon AccuPoint TR23 http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produc...nt&mid=5-20x50

    Any other suggestions in terms of brand will be appreciated assuming 5-20x50 is not overkill.

    Standard or Mil-Dot Crosshair?

    Lastly, what ring height is recommended for the AR-308 platform...standard, intermediate or high?

    Thank you very much in advance for your posts.

    I truly value the opinions of this community.
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    epilepticninja
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 4166

    Good questions. I've got a Bushy LR-308 that I have set up with an Aimpoint PRO. I would like to set it up to reach beyond the 400 yard range. So, I too am looking at a scope and bipod for it. Interested in hearing responses to the OP's inquiry.
    Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.

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    • #3
      ExtremeX
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 7160

      Lots of good scope options on the market...

      You might want to start here:



      If you have a general price range you would like to stay in that would be a lot of help...
      ExtremeX

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      • #4
        glenn.ma
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 608

        $1,000.00 for the optic/scope.

        Originally posted by ExtremeX
        Lots of good scope options on the market...

        You might want to start here:



        If you have a general price range you would like to stay in that would be a lot of help...
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        • #5
          ExtremeX
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 7160

          Well the Trijicon 5-20 would probably exceed that budget unless you find the right deal... If you are still considering that optic the TR23-2 with the mildot reticle is the only one I would consider. The other two options lack mil or moa markers making it more difficult for hold over shots and cant use em for ranging or to measure correction... The main thing I dont like about it is the reticle is in mils and the turret adjustment are in MOA. I dont think they offer them in matching mil/mil, nor do they have a moa/moa option. Someone correct me if im wrong...

          I really like a lot of stuff Trijicon makes but they still dont fit the bill for what I want in a Target scope...

          Vortex PST 4-16x or 6-24x in SFP would keep you under budget, and the FFP models would be right at your budget. Both options are available in mil/mil or moa/moa with what I feel also includes a much better reticle for ranging, measurement, and all that good stuff.

          Bushnell Elite Tactical G2DMR FFP is another really popular option. I haven't personally used it but the tracking, glass, and reticle get great reviews. If you prefer to shooting using hold overs that reticle is hard to overlook. It would be over budget depending on which model and magnification range you decide on.

          I have an SWFA 5-20 SS HD which is also a great scope and is worth consideration and also in your ballpark budget.

          You may also want to consider the used market, you might be able to get a scope in your budget that would otherwise exceed it.

          I'm sure other member will chime in with other recommendations.
          ExtremeX

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          • #6
            glenn.ma
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 608

            Thank you very much for your post.

            I was hoping $1,000.00 is sufficient but I am willing to spend more than $1,000.00.

            I prefer purchasing the optimum scope now rather than purchasing, selling, purchasing, selling, purchasing again later if possible.

            Possible being the keyword

            I went through several optics before I finally settled on the ELCAN SpecterDr for my COLT LE6940CA.

            I want a scope that will allow me to maximize the full potential of the COLT LE901-S.

            A decrease would be in order if 5-20x50 is beyond the range of the rifle.

            An increase would be in order if 5-20x50 is under the range of the rifle.

            I am not set on the Trijicon AccuPoint.

            I like the illuminated reticle but it is not a must.

            I have no experience with a caliber larger than 5.56x45 NATO which explains my ignorance and post.

            In closing, do you recommend standard, intermediate or high rings?

            Originally posted by ExtremeX
            Well the Trijicon 5-20 would probably exceed that budget unless you find the right deal... If you are still considering that optic the TR23-2 with the mildot reticle is the only one I would consider. The other two options lack mil or moa markers making it more difficult for hold over shots and cant use em for ranging or to measure correction... The main thing I dont like about it is the reticle is in mils and the turret adjustment are in MOA. I dont think they offer them in matching mil/mil, nor do they have a moa/moa option. Someone correct me if im wrong...

            I really like a lot of stuff Trijicon makes but they still dont fit the bill for what I want in a Target scope...

            Vortex PST 4-16x or 6-24x in SFP would keep you under budget, and the FFP models would be right at your budget. Both options are available in mil/mil or moa/moa with what I feel also includes a much better reticle for ranging, measurement, and all that good stuff.

            Bushnell Elite Tactical G2DMR FFP is another really popular option. I haven't personally used it but the tracking, glass, and reticle get great reviews. If you prefer to shooting using hold overs that reticle is hard to overlook. It would be over budget depending on which model and magnification range you decide on.

            I have an SWFA 5-20 SS HD which is also a great scope and is worth consideration and also in your ballpark budget.

            You may also want to consider the used market, you might be able to get a scope in your budget that would otherwise exceed it.

            I'm sure other member will chime in with other recommendations.
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            • #7
              ExtremeX
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 7160

              For rings and mounts on an AR platform I like to use 1 piece mounts vs a set of traditional rings. Most of them are already setup for the correct sight height.

              Larue LT104, Bobro, and the Burris PERP as a budget option.. I'm sure I'm missing a few, but that's what I typically use.
              ExtremeX

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              • #8
                SloChicken
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 4533

                I am finishing a 6.8spc build for deer/antelope/hog and went with a trijicon accupoint 2.5-10x56mm with a green dot mil-dot reticle.
                I feel that 20x is more than needed especially as 5x will be the widest FOV you get with a scope like you mentioned. 2.5x van be use with 2 eyes open and 10x is plenty for animal sized targets up to 600yds. 20x is more for 1000yds+ IMO.
                I got my trijicon for 799 at amazon - no tax and free shipping.
                It will be on a PEPR QD mount.
                I realize a 56mm is a large objective, but cheek weld will be the aame as my other ARs, and will have the best light gathering potential for my dawn/dusk hunts.
                Just what I went with. Many good options out there.
                Good luck!
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                • #9
                  HK Dave
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5737

                  On a Tactical 308 AR, 5-20 is considered overkill... most folks max out at 15x on the top end.

                  Having said that, my 308 AR has a Premier Heritage 5-25x56mm... works for me.

                  I agree with ExtremeX choices.. especially with regards to the DMR or the SWFA 5-20x

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                  • #10
                    NORCAL#1
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 671

                    You really have to narrow it down to what kind of shooting you will be doing for example an acog is IMO very accurate out to at least 500/600 yards for man sized targets but at that distance if you were trying to make a head shot/smaller target i would like a scope, granted to make a shot like that you need to have some dope on your rifle/scope.

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                    • #11
                      AAShooter
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2010
                      • 7188

                      I went with a SWFA 5-20 SS HD

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                      • #12
                        glenn.ma
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 608

                        I went with the Bushnell ERS 3.5-21x 50mm.

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                        • #13
                          HK Dave
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5737

                          Good choice. Get it from Charlie? :P

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                          • #14
                            Tack4251
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1290

                            +1
                            Vortex PST 4-16x or 6-24x in SFP would keep you under budget, and the FFP models would be right at your budget. Both options are available in mil/mil or moa/moa with what I feel also includes a much better reticle for ranging, measurement, and all that good stuff.

                            I have this set up on a 20" POF P308. Does everything I want/need..and their customer service is top notch.

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                            • #15
                              Scottie15
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 992

                              Check out the new SWFA 3-15. I have their 5-20 and really like it. I think the 3-15 would let you get out to 600 yards quite easily, while still having a decent field of view for sub-100 yard shots.

                              Your 16" barrel will should happy sending lead out to 600 yards. I think most 5-20x50 optics would weigh your rifle down pretty quickly (30+ ounces for the optic alone). Most 3-15's in 40-42mm will be lighter and still feel relatively handy on the carbine.

                              Let us know what you decide!
                              Its an expensive hobby, but more expensive when you try and convince yourself you don't need what you really want.

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