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  • #16
    Prc329
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2006
    • 5603

    Originally posted by rksimple
    The glass on the IOR is much better than the loopy. It sounds funny to say that its "right up there" with leupold. Thats an insult to the IOR.

    Nayt-they determined what the problem was on the SH 3-18's. Its been corrected in Romania and all the new ones are being shipped with the upgraded part. I may get another. You?
    If I build something bigger then 308. I love the scope I have.
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    • #17
      Prc329
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2006
      • 5603

      Originally posted by wildcard
      I want to commit to one but can't find the specs of the scope. Is the scope illuminated?
      Nope. I hear rumors that the 4-14x50 illuminated with mils is in the works. A year off though.
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      • #18
        rksimple
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2006
        • 6257

        Originally posted by wildcard
        I want to commit to one but can't find the specs of the scope. Is the scope illuminated?
        Nope. Its a 3-18x42, FFP with the A5 reticle. Mil adjustments with 10 mils per turn on the elevation knob. Came with tps 35mm rings, but they said something about the new ones coming with seekins rings. I wouldn't have got my money back on mine had it held together. Its a kick a** scope. Here's the specs of the reticle.
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        • #19
          PistolPete75
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2007
          • 5230

          i like the center dot on the recticle.

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          • #20
            wildcard
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 4917

            The mil knobs may take a little getting used to.. but I think this may be my next scope. $1300 price tag! I just wish it came with an illuminated reticle.

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            • #21
              PistolPete75
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2007
              • 5230

              Originally posted by wildcard
              The mil knobs may take a little getting used to.. but I think this may be my next scope. $1300 price tag! I just wish it came with an illuminated reticle.

              mil is the way to go. might be a little getting used to, but it'll make life alot easier with a FFP and a mil-type recticle.
              Last edited by PistolPete75; 12-11-2007, 6:39 PM.

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              • #22
                uscbigdawg
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 1869

                My only issue, as far as I can tell, with the SH IOR, is that the reticle is in MOA and the adjustments are in mils. All MOA or all mils. Not a mixture of the two.

                I've e-mailed Scott at Liberty, but have heard yet, if this is really the case. It is with other IOR optics.

                Rich

                ETA: Heard back from Scott not 2 minutes after writing this. mil/mil. I'm sold. It's going on my 6 Ackley from Kodiak Precision!
                Last edited by uscbigdawg; 11-28-2007, 5:49 PM.
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                • #23
                  CRTguns
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2627

                  Originally posted by Pthfndr
                  In his price range the IOR, or Bushnell 4200 series would be the best bet for a new scope. If he doesn't mind a used scope you can find Leupold Mk4 scopes for sale at the top of his price range.

                  Stay away from 1/8 moa clicks unless he's strictly bench rest shooting.
                  .............
                  And yes, I shoot 1000 yards regularly.

                  he's so modest- He competes with a 4 power WWII tech, 50+ year old post reticle that lacks the MOA to even reach 1000yds- but he does it somehow... voodoo or jedi majic!

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                  • #24
                    5968
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 3557

                    [QUOTE=rksimple;854615]The glass on the IOR is much better than the loopy. It sounds funny to say that its "right up there" with leupold. Thats an insult to the IOR.

                    Like I said, I have no experience with any IOR scopes, but have heard great things about them. I'm glad to hear your opinion along with PRC329s. I am looking at getting a new scope and probably would not have considered IOR without your input.
                    sigpicIf you loan someone twenty dollars and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
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                    NFA is a long ways off as well it should be. Going after the NFA soon is like asking the girl you just met in the bar if she's into anal sex...-Gene

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                    • #25
                      Prc329
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 5603



                      My original scope and impressions



                      New scope and impressions.
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                      • #26
                        rksimple
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 6257

                        [QUOTE=5968;855567]
                        Originally posted by rksimple
                        The glass on the IOR is much better than the loopy. It sounds funny to say that its "right up there" with leupold. Thats an insult to the IOR.

                        Like I said, I have no experience with any IOR scopes, but have heard great things about them. I'm glad to hear your opinion along with PRC329s. I am looking at getting a new scope and probably would not have considered IOR without your input.
                        They really offer a lot for the money, and have many different options to choose from. Here's the little write-up I did on the 3-18. I should have updated it when the scope failed, but didn't. With all the bugs worked out now, I think another one may be in my future.
                        GAP Team Shooter 5

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                        • #27
                          maxicon
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 4661

                          [QUOTE=rksimple;855648]
                          Originally posted by 5968

                          They really offer a lot for the money, and have many different options to choose from. Here's the little write-up I did on the 3-18. I should have updated it when the scope failed, but didn't. With all the bugs worked out now, I think another one may be in my future.
                          What was the failure, and how was their support for it? I've heard IOR is very good at supporting current gen scopes, and less so for out of production scopes, but there's not a lot of detail out there.
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                          • #28
                            ocabj
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7924

                            From what I have heard and observed, a lot of the 'serious' long range shooters have switched to Nightforce from Leupold.

                            Eavesdropping in on various conversations during matches, shooters have indicated that many in the long range circle are unhappy with the current production Leupold scopes. Issues include problems with reticles and scope adjustments. While Leupold still have excellent customer service and warranty support, some feel it is better to spend a few extra $100 to get a scope that has good support, but has a better chance of not needing it (not having to get a repair).

                            This is why Nightforce scopes are becoming more prevalent in F-Class and the Long Range "Any Sight" classes.

                            Distinguished Rifleman #1924
                            NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
                            NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

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                            • #29
                              rksimple
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 6257

                              [QUOTE=maxicon;855934]
                              Originally posted by rksimple

                              What was the failure, and how was their support for it? I've heard IOR is very good at supporting current gen scopes, and less so for out of production scopes, but there's not a lot of detail out there.
                              After about 100 rounds something came loose inside and everything got blurry. The power ring became difficult to turn and the reticle couldn't be seen. Here's the thread describing what Valdada Romainia had to say.

                              I purchased it through Liberty Optics, the only vendor for this scope. He has an outstanding reputation for taking care of things and with me it was no exception. In fact, I sent my scope back to Valdada in CO, and when they received it, they immediately shipped me out a new one. I talked to Scott at Liberty Optics and told him I just wanted my money back, as other scopes were failing the same way and I thought there may be a defect. He obliged and refunded my money and I sent him back the new scope. IOR and LO took care of me 100%.
                              GAP Team Shooter 5

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                              • #30
                                Prc329
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 5603

                                Scott is a stand up guy/ He will get all my optic business from now on. I email back and fourth with him for like a month before I bought mine. He answered every question and replied very fast.
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