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  • #31
    ro442173
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 1042

    Originally posted by Richie Caketown
    I just bought one of those Trijiclones , ill report back to this thread when i get it
    So would you recommend it? I'm thinking about getting this for my dedicated 22.

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    • #32
      maxicon
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4661

      The Eotech 552 battery cover is plastic.

      Relative brightness is a hard thing to compare, and looking at a light doesn't work well, as the center of the light is too bright for much of any reticle to show against.

      It's much easier to compare against, say, blue sky on a bright day, or noon sun on concrete. The Eotech (Rev F and beyond) is designed to work in arctic conditions (with lithium batteries), so the reticle is bright enough to see in bright sunlight reflected off snow, but most of us don't have that available.

      With mine, you can't see the reticle against the bright blue sky when it turns on (setting 12). It's barely visible at setting 15, and is quite clear and usable at 20, the top setting. It's about the same against noon sun on concrete, though the concrete isn't super bright.

      Interestingly, with the Eotech off, if you catch the sunlight just right (sun behind you, Eotech held at about a 45 degree angle, sun shining onto the mirror in the base), you can get a very bright but fuzzy reticle displayed from the sunlight reflecting into the hologram.

      The reticle on a real one will be spotty due to laser speckle.

      As for the reticle size change, the reticle's actually staying the same size (65 MOA for the outer ring), but it subtends more or less of the viewport as you move it out or in. Find something that the circle fits around and move the sight in or out, and you'll see that the reticle stays the same size relative to what you're looking at, but changes relative to the sight itself, as it must.

      I would think either an Eotech or Acog look-alike would be too high for a 10/22, which normally has the optic closer to the bore. I'd consider putting the Konus Atomic Pro or one of the other T1 look-alikes on a 10/22.
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      • #33
        bohoki
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 20815

        Originally posted by maxicon
        The Eotech 552 battery cover is plastic.

        Relative brightness is a hard thing to compare, and looking at a light doesn't work well, as the center of the light is too bright for much of any reticle to show against.

        It's much easier to compare against, say, blue sky on a bright day, or noon sun on concrete. The Eotech (Rev F and beyond) is designed to work in arctic conditions (with lithium batteries), so the reticle is bright enough to see in bright sunlight reflected off snow, but most of us don't have that available.

        With mine, you can't see the reticle against the bright blue sky when it turns on (setting 12). It's barely visible at setting 15, and is quite clear and usable at 20, the top setting. It's about the same against noon sun on concrete, though the concrete isn't super bright.

        Interestingly, with the Eotech off, if you catch the sunlight just right (sun behind you, Eotech held at about a 45 degree angle, sun shining onto the mirror in the base), you can get a very bright but fuzzy reticle displayed from the sunlight reflecting into the hologram.

        The reticle on a real one will be spotty due to laser speckle.

        As for the reticle size change, the reticle's actually staying the same size (65 MOA for the outer ring), but it subtends more or less of the viewport as you move it out or in. Find something that the circle fits around and move the sight in or out, and you'll see that the reticle stays the same size relative to what you're looking at, but changes relative to the sight itself, as it must.

        I would think either an Eotech or Acog look-alike would be too high for a 10/22, which normally has the optic closer to the bore. I'd consider putting the Konus Atomic Pro or one of the other T1 look-alikes on a 10/22.
        any link for one

        so i know what to look for

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        • #34
          maxicon
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4661

          Originally posted by bohoki
          any link for one

          so i know what to look for
          The first two are both recommended:

          Primary Arms (non-removable base) - out of stock on the micro, keep an eye out, but they have other good quality red dot look-alikes:


          Konus (removable base with a bit of tweaking) - out of stock, backorder OK, other people might have it:


          Here's a thread on the Konus:


          These are a gamble - no data:
          ebay look-alikes - risky due to uncertain warranty, customer support, who knows who made them - they may be the same as the Konus or Primary, or may not:
          Last edited by maxicon; 06-26-2009, 5:16 PM.
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