Best 1-4x Variable Scope For Tactical Use

[RECCE556]

USO or Nightforce?

If you're talking about just the 1-4x scopes, I would honestly say it's a coin toss...

[gose]

If you have the money get the USO, if not maybe look for a used valdada or wait for the PST and Super Sniper 1-4 both of should be here "soon".

Heh, the SuB 1-8 was supposed to be here "soon" more than 6 months ago
The only company worse than optics companies in terms of getting products to market in the estimated time frame is Magpul.

[dart368]

So, let's say that I have whittled it down to 4 different optics and have $2,000 to spend so price is not really an issue.

IOR Valdada 1.5-8x26 35mm Tactical Illuminated BDC/CQB Reticule

U.S. Optics SN-4 1.5-6x28 30mm

Nightforce 1-4 x 24 NXS 30mm

Trijicon Accupoint TR-24R 1-4x24 30mm

It would be used for 3 gun from 7-300 yard shots and maybe...MAYBE for some CQB work, but it's a big maybe so mostly 3 gun matches. Let me know your thoughts.

[GeoffLinder]

So, let's say that I have whittled it down to 4 different optics and have $2,000 to spend so price is not really an issue.

IOR Valdada 1.5-8x26 35mm Tactical Illuminated BDC/CQB Reticule

U.S. Optics SN-4 1.5-6x28 30mm

Nightforce 1-4 x 24 NXS 30mm

Trijicon Accupoint TR-24R 1-4x24 30mm

It would be used for 3 gun from 7-300 yard shots and maybe...MAYBE for some CQB work, but it's a big maybe so mostly 3 gun matches. Let me know your thoughts.

Get one that is a "true" 1x and CQ engagement will be a lot easier. 4x is plenty of mag for steel plates and USPSA paper targets to 350+ meters. Go with the NF or Trijicon or get a USO in 1-4x (SN-4S) instead of 1.5-6x

The BDC is a glitzy option but way over-rated for multi-gun use IMHO. Better to learn your hold-overs and have a clean uncluttered view in the scope IMO.

[esskay]

Whoa, "price is not really an issue" and "It would be used for 3 gun" ?!

Didn't realize these were your criteria! No question, you've gotta look at the Swarovski Z6i 1-6x with BRT illuminated reticle. 3-gunners are gushing over this optic. You've got the coin, check it out!!

http://www.cstactical.com/Swarovski/OPTICS/Rifle-Scopes/Swarovski/Swarovski-Z6i-1-6x24-BRT-I.html?vmcchk=1

However, SHOT show is just a couple weeks away, so hang on and see what's new. SWFA has a 1-4x coming out, the Vortex PST is just starting to ship.

[dart368]

Whoa, "price is not really an issue" and "It would be used for 3 gun" ?!

Didn't realize these were your criteria! No question, you've gotta look at the Swarovski Z6i 1-6x with BRT illuminated reticle. 3-gunners are gushing over this optic. You've got the coin, check it out!!

http://www.cstactical.com/Swarovski/OPTICS/Rifle-Scopes/Swarovski/Swarovski-Z6i-1-6x24-BRT-I.html?vmcchk=1

However, SHOT show is just a couple weeks away, so hang on and see what's new. SWFA has a 1-4x coming out, the Vortex PST is just starting to ship.

UNDER $2,000....WOW! Talk about getting what you pay for. This optic should pull the trigger for me if I am putting out that much bank!

[thetaxman]

Anyone else tried the Leupold CQB (the 1-8x)? Reticle seemed real busy and I've heard a $4k price tag ?

[OutlawDon]

Anyone else tried the Leupold CQB (the 1-8x)? Reticle seemed real busy and I've heard a $4k price tag ?

That $4K price tag is going to keep it away from most people. Way too lofty. There are other choices with not such an absurd and ridiculous pricing.

[ElvenSoul]

1x4 me want 1x8...will settle for good true 1x6...

[gose]

Anyone else tried the Leupold CQB (the 1-8x)? Reticle seemed real busy and I've heard a $4k price tag ?

and pretty much non-existent illumination...

[gose]

The BDC is a glitzy option but way over-rated for multi-gun use IMHO. Better to learn your hold-overs and have a clean uncluttered view in the scope IMO.

Out to 300y or so, I totally agree with you, but when you're at 400+ yards and have a 10-15mph side wind, that BDC is pretty nice to have...

[GeoffLinder]

Out to 300y or so, I totally agree with you, but when you're at 400+ yards and have a 10-15mph side wind, that BDC is pretty nice to have...

S'truth, but how often do we really see steel beyond 300-325 yards anyway?

Both RM3G's I have been to have had max steel ranges of 330 yards. Never saw a target beyond 320 yards at any USPSA MG I have been to. Only match I have shot with targets beyond 325 has been the MGM IronMan match. Used a non-BDC scope 1st year I went, no problemo, used a BDC TA-01 ACOG the following year and felt it helped a bit, but could have done it with holdovers easily as there was no wind to speak of.

I do really like the windage stadia though, they were the total schiznit for the shootoffs at the 2005 RM3G when a storm cell moved in and the wind was blowing 20mph plus for the 200 yard rifle steel. Held twice the stadia off the plates and cleaned them with SMK 77's. The army guy using 55gr and an Eotech ran a 30 round mag dry trying to hit the 5 plates on his run

[dart368]

WOW...you guys are way above my level. Maybe i should just stick to my Accupoint 1.5-4x and get good with my hold overs. It's mounted on an 18 inch free floated heavy barrell with a Miculek compensator. I would think that after reading everyone's comments, it should be just fine for any 3 gun match and for hitting targets out to 300 yards. I was thinking of more power just to be able to see the target better and the "Tactical" use was put in because I was thinking of using it on a CQB M4 for my top secret missions that I go on. But I have scrubbed that since most shots taken would probably be close range and not more than 50 yards away which I can easily make with either my Eotech or a 1x red dot. So, the Accupoint would be primarilly used for personal target practice or 3 gun matches. I did find that for 100 yards and for 50 yards, it is the same hold point (The top of the triangle on the target) and at 25 yards, the hold off is the bottom of the triangle on the target. At closer distances, it is of course, about 4-6 inches above the target. I have not been able to go to a longer distance range to check for 200 or 300 yards. If anyone has information on hold overs for the Accupoint 1.5-4x I would be interested. Thanks.