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  • #61
    hnoppenberger
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 1398

    the trijicon 1-4 is hard to beat, cheaper than the other high ends of that type and great optics. I'd trade up, its much better than the old 1.25 you're using

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    • #62
      dart368
      Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 476

      Originally posted by hnoppenberger
      the trijicon 1-4 is hard to beat, cheaper than the other high ends of that type and great optics. I'd trade up, its much better than the old 1.25 you're using
      Sounds good, let's trade!
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      • #63
        Husker16
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 54

        I was looking at an Acog for my M4, not much discussion about that type here though? I know the USMC uses the ACOG. Any opinions here?

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        • #64
          WDE91
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 3513

          If you have $1500 go for it
          they are nice but I think there are plenty of other good options for the average joe much cheaper
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          • #65
            dart368
            Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 476

            Originally posted by Husker16
            I was looking at an Acog for my M4, not much discussion about that type here though? I know the USMC uses the ACOG. Any opinions here?
            Here is one opinion from a USMC reserve who is also on their rifle competition team and an avid 3 gun competitor(Not me, my co-worker):

            My buddy and I had this discussion as most of our co-workers are going to the ACOG. He says, they are cool looking, compact and tough. And since the USMC uses them, they MUST be good...right? Well, yes, they are good. But for the same amount of money, you can get something with the same quality or better that is adjustable. This gives you more flexibility in regards to shooting at closer distances or targets that are further away. Course, you can always add a co-witness optic/sight but again, more money. I like the idea of having one optic that can do it all so all I have to worry about is hold offs. Just my...er, our opinion though.
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            • #66
              ronas
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 758

              I know the USMC uses the ACOG. Any opinions here?
              They do not have a diopter adjustment. That may or not be a problem. If you need a diopter adjuster like I do it can be a big problem.

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              • #67
                Crusader
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 2995

                Originally posted by Husker16
                I was looking at an Acog for my M4, not much discussion about that type here though? I know the USMC uses the ACOG. Any opinions here?
                If an ACOG is in your price range, I'll suggest one of our scopes for you. For the same price as an ACOG (and sometimes less depending on the features you want), we offer two scopes in our SN-4 line. One is a 1-4x, the other is a 1.5-6x. Our scopes offer illuminated reticles, adjustable eye pieces, and you can pick and choose the reticle option you want, your knob configuration, etc.

                Check us out at usoptics.com, or call us at 714-582-1956 as our website is under construction.


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                • #68
                  Mute
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8555

                  I've used ACOGs and I have some experience with the SN-4 line. If I were paying the price of an ACOG and using my rifle in a capacity that is best served by an optic like an ACOG, I'd take the USO scope every time. I find the scope much more versatile and the choice in reticles is a huge advantage.
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                  • #69
                    esskay
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2304

                    Originally posted by gose
                    The Meopta is a very nice scope for range use. For anything serious I'd want to use something I can trust a bit more.
                    Dont get me wrong, I love my Meoptas (I have three K-dots) and for 3-gunning with targets from 0-350 y, it's def one of the best. However, I bought my first K-dot ~4 years ago and I'm about to send in my third repair this week and I know I'm not the only one going through scopes.

                    Do I think it's the best match scope out there for me, yes (or I'd buy something else). Would I want to trust my life on it, no.
                    (Knock on wood) My Meopta has been very reliable for me ... but like Gose I have it on a 3-gun rifle not a defensive gun. The glass is fantastic, FOV is good, 1X is very clean, and the illuminated reticle is super bright.

                    However, one other thing to consider that is not immediately apparent until you take it out at night is that the lowest illumination can be much too bright when it is very dark... which could be a real liability for tactical use. I've run it at night with no moon and the illumination at the lowest setting just overpowered everything...
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                    • #70
                      dart368
                      Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 476

                      Esskay...excellent point. I have taken my Eotech out at night and have had to set it at it's lowest setting but it wasn't overpowering. The Accupoint has a built in night sight (Tritium) which gives it an advantage, especially that it doesn't need batteries.
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                      • #71
                        esskay
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 2304

                        Originally posted by dart368
                        Esskay...excellent point. I have taken my Eotech out at night and have had to set it at it's lowest setting but it wasn't overpowering. The Accupoint has a built in night sight (Tritium) which gives it an advantage, especially that it doesn't need batteries.
                        Cool, the Eotechs and Aimpoints I've had seem to work well in basically any lighting conditions -- they can get both dark enough and bright enough.

                        Love the Accupoints, just a couple things to consider: In some lighting conditions, the fiber/tritium illumination may not be as bright as you would like. e.g. inside home at night with sparse lighting. Or when shooting while situated in a dark position to a target in a brightly lit area.
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                        • #72
                          dart368
                          Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 476

                          Originally posted by esskay
                          Cool, the Eotechs and Aimpoints I've had seem to work well in basically any lighting conditions -- they can get both dark enough and bright enough.

                          Love the Accupoints, just a couple things to consider: In some lighting conditions, the fiber/tritium illumination may not be as bright as you would like. e.g. inside home at night with sparse lighting. Or when shooting while situated in a dark position to a target in a brightly lit area.
                          I have found that to be true as well. I thought for a while that my tritium was out on my accupoint when I tried it at night. Another Good point!
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                          • #73
                            reddot556
                            Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 455

                            ya know, some people like em, some don't..but for me the ior pitbull with a cat tail on it has been my favorite..there is a reason you never see them for sale used..people keep em

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                            • #74
                              Hoop
                              Ready fo HILLARY!!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 11540

                              If you have the money get the USO, if not maybe look for a used valdada or wait for the PST and Super Sniper 1-4 both of should be here "soon".

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                              • #75
                                dart368
                                Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 476

                                USO or Nightforce?
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