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  • #46
    gose
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3953

    Originally posted by Crusader
    We offer a high end close quarters optic called the SN-4 line. In that line we have two scopes, a 1-4x, and a 1.5-6x. We can build the scope to whatever you want, including choices of reticles, knob configuration, and anodizing finish.
    Check us out at USOptics.com, but admittedly our site is under construction so if you have questions, give us a call at 714-582-1956
    The SN-4 with the Lund reticle would be one of my top choices, if it only had a tad better illumination.
    For people not as picky as me about daytime illumination, it's def worth a look.
    With Oden on our side.

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    • #47
      Crusader
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 2995

      Honestly that is the one thing I would change about all of our scopes. The nice thing about our Rheostat illumination is that the reticle is easy to see in all but the deepest shadows and at night. In those two circumstances, the Rheostat really shines bright.

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      • #48
        dart368
        Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 476

        Originally posted by Crusader
        Honestly that is the one thing I would change about all of our scopes. The nice thing about our Rheostat illumination is that the reticle is easy to see in all but the deepest shadows and at night. In those two circumstances, the Rheostat really shines bright.
        WOW...didn't think my post would take off like this. Thank you all for your replies. For now, I think I am happy with my Trijicon Accupoint except for the 1.5-4 part as I wish it was a one power at the lowest setting but hey, 1.5 isn't too bad. It seems to be the best bang for the buck (Pardon the pun).

        Crusader, your optics sound interesting. It would be nice to find a scope with mil-dots for hold offs of various distances that is 1-6 or so variable. Just a thought.
        "You been training for this moment your entire life. The universe has been conspiring, if you think about it, to put you right here, right now."

        Jonas Blane Talking To Bob Brown, Season 1, Episode 1 of THE UNIT

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        • #49
          tacticalcity
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Aug 2006
          • 10916

          Originally posted by Crusader
          We offer a high end close quarters optic called the SN-4 line. In that line we have two scopes, a 1-4x, and a 1.5-6x. We can build the scope to whatever you want, including choices of reticles, knob configuration, and anodizing finish.

          Check us out at USOptics.com, but admittedly our site is under construction so if you have questions, give us a call at 714-582-1956
          U.S. Optics makes A-M-A-Z-I-N-G products. Top of the line stuff.

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          • #50
            TMC
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2348

            dart368 the TR-21 you have right now is a very good scope for match use, a couple of the top 3-gunners in the county used them until the TR-24 came out and they both switched to it. I use a TR-21 and have no problem with the 1.25x for the close stuff because you're shooting with both eyes open anyway. I have the triangle reticle and a 200 yard zero which is pretty much a dead on hold out to 200 and on a flash target at 300 I hold at the top. Simple, which is always faster in compitition.

            Like most things in shooting is not the gear as much as the time you put into knowning your gear and practcing with it.

            Now if it "all comes down" the rifle I'll take with me has an ACOG TA-11 on it.
            where are my pistol mags?

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            • #51
              Mute
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 8555

              Originally posted by dart368
              WOW...didn't think my post would take off like this. Thank you all for your replies. For now, I think I am happy with my Trijicon Accupoint except for the 1.5-4 part as I wish it was a one power at the lowest setting but hey, 1.5 isn't too bad. It seems to be the best bang for the buck (Pardon the pun).

              Crusader, your optics sound interesting. It would be nice to find a scope with mil-dots for hold offs of various distances that is 1-6 or so variable. Just a thought.
              The SN4 1.5-6 I saw at Shot Show back in January was an excellent scope. Relatively light but sturdy. Good eye relief and exit pupil also. As to mildots, you do realize this scope has an option for a mil based reticle (JNG Mil) right? Check it out. It's a great reticle.
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              • #52
                Crusader
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 2995

                Originally posted by dart368
                WOW...didn't think my post would take off like this. Thank you all for your replies. For now, I think I am happy with my Trijicon Accupoint except for the 1.5-4 part as I wish it was a one power at the lowest setting but hey, 1.5 isn't too bad. It seems to be the best bang for the buck (Pardon the pun).

                Crusader, your optics sound interesting. It would be nice to find a scope with mil-dots for hold offs of various distances that is 1-6 or so variable. Just a thought.
                We do offer a reticle in mil dot configuration. We also offer a circle-chevron reticle that, in the lower left hand portion of the field of view, has rectangles numbered 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 (progressively getting smaller as the number goes up). Those rectangles are the size of the average male torso at those distances... 200, 300, 400, 500, and 600 yards. So, put the rectangle over the target's torso, and that's his approximate range.

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                • #53
                  CSTactical
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4089

                  They USO are made very robust and are very nice...

                  Mike @ CST
                  Dealer for Zero Compromise Optic, Tangent Theta, Leupold, Nightforce, Vortex, Aimpoint, Desert Tech, Swarovski and more...
                  Call 916-670-1103 for Calguns pricing
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                  916-670-1103

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                  • #54
                    CSTactical
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 4089

                    Also there is the Vortex 1-4x we have been testing out so for so good.


                    Mike @ CST
                    Dealer for Zero Compromise Optic, Tangent Theta, Leupold, Nightforce, Vortex, Aimpoint, Desert Tech, Swarovski and more...
                    Call 916-670-1103 for Calguns pricing
                    www.cstactical.com
                    sales@cstactical.com
                    916-670-1103

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                    • #55
                      Secret
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 867

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                      • #56
                        ronas
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 758

                        tr24G. For me great to 100 yards. Green triangle is like using iron sights except I can green triangle. At 1 or 2 power not much of learning curve to use with both eyes open.

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                        • #57
                          dart368
                          Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 476

                          Okay, here is a twist on this subject. What brands or models should we stay away from?
                          "You been training for this moment your entire life. The universe has been conspiring, if you think about it, to put you right here, right now."

                          Jonas Blane Talking To Bob Brown, Season 1, Episode 1 of THE UNIT

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                          • #58
                            tacticalcity
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10916

                            Personally I would stay away from Counter Sniper Optics. Because people can sue you for bad mouthing their products, and I would not it put it passed them, I will not go into detail. But if you do a google search you will see why I came to that conclusion. They are the only major brand making a "tactical scope" that makes me nervious.

                            Chinese scopes off ebay are hit and miss. All the Vector Optics cheap Chinese scopes I tried held zero on a flat range and have done surprisingly well for the price but I would not drop into the sandbox with them. On the opposite end of the spectrum the knockoff Aimpoints I've seen people get did not hold zero and were a complete waste of money. None are as good as the Trijicon you already have, so there would be no need for you to go there.

                            I've heard great things about Super Sniper Scopes from SWFA as far as entry level get a little more than you pay for scopes. They hold their value. But they are no where near as nice as the Trijicon you already have.

                            I've also heard good things about the Millet DMS but again it is not as good as what you have.
                            Last edited by tacticalcity; 12-10-2010, 10:27 AM.

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                            • #59
                              dart368
                              Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 476

                              thanks for the info
                              "You been training for this moment your entire life. The universe has been conspiring, if you think about it, to put you right here, right now."

                              Jonas Blane Talking To Bob Brown, Season 1, Episode 1 of THE UNIT

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                              • #60
                                RECCE556
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 1221

                                Without a doubt, either the S&B Short Dot or the Elcan Specter DR. I'm fortunate enough to both and the best feature of both optics is that they have a DAYTIME usable RED DOT so you can use them like a Aimpoint. As good as USO's are, the SN-4 has worthless daytime illumination (as do most 1-4x+ optics). Both the Elcan and S&B are also very stout. The locking knobs on the S&B are a great feature (you pull up on the knobs to adjust W or E)...the Elcan doesn't really need this feature due to how you adjust them. The FOV on both the DR and Short Dot is great. The Short Dot has better eye relief but both are better than most Trijicons so if you're OK with say the TA01's eye relief, then the DR will be an improvement and the Short Dot will be a huge improvement.

                                Speaking of the Elcan, I've had several Elcans (bought and sold at various times) and I've taken every single one of them through at least one 3-day carbine course. Now while a carbine course is nowhere near as HSLD as what the SOCOM guys do, I've never had one go out of adjustment nor have I had a POA/POI shift (at least not enough for me to notice).

                                The Trijicon TR-24 is also a nice lower cost QUALITY 1-4x optic and they do offer a crosshair-dot reticle but they don't offer it in red (just yellow and green which I find don't show up as well as red).

                                I also respectfully disagree with the "1x only" optic guys. While you may not be engaging 300+ yard targets, in a SHTF situation, it can NEVER hurt to have magnified optics when you also have a 1x setting.
                                Last edited by RECCE556; 12-11-2010, 1:11 PM.

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