CAA hartman red dot any input?

[Niviticus]

Wow, I've heard about Calguns turning into a forum full of hostile members. It appears to be true that these newer members are ruining what is supposed to be a way for gun loving guys/girls to get together and share experiences/info/learn. I see that many of the old school fellas don't post much anymore or have left. That's a shame since they took quite a bit of knowledge with them. Instead we get expert bullsh1t from valuable members like ifixit that clearly explains how we don't want this "Eotech body with NC Star internals" this is just priceless. Apparently the size of this optic is unreal, we don't want this since only real navy seals can handle something of this size.

OP, I'll be honest I don't know much about this optic but I was interested at first. It caught my eye since they advertised having the largest field of view. One of the main features I want is decent enough battery life to be able to leave the optic on and ready to use at all times. My other preference is for a reticle that my eyes will pick up quickly which is why I used nothing but Eotechs for a long time. I lost interest in the Hartman mainly because I can't find any mention of battery life. I think the reticle is great and if the battery life can last at least 1 year then I'm buying one to see how I like it. I make it a habit to change all batteries on my optics on the day after New Years when I'm recovering from my hangover. I used to use nothing but Eotechs but switched to Aimpoints to be able to have an always ready optic. I really miss the Eotech reticle and can definitely tell a difference in target acquisition speed. So since then I've been in a quest to find the best of both worlds. Im currently interested in the new Vortex but it's the same damn thing with them, no mention of battery life whatsoever. Not sure what to think, if these companies are holding back battery life specs then when they finally release it I'm going to think it's a BS inflated number. I'm not going throw money at companies just to find out they fluffed certain specs to sell products. Well, sorry I didn't have much info on the Hartman but just something to think about.

[CouchOperator]

Wow, I've heard about Calguns turning into a forum full of hostile members. It appears to be true that these newer members are ruining what is supposed to be a way for gun loving guys/girls to get together and share experiences/info/learn. I see that many of the old school fellas don't post much anymore or have left. That's a shame since they took quite a bit of knowledge with them. Instead we get expert bullsh1t from valuable members like ifixit that clearly explains how we don't want this "Eotech body with NC Star internals" this is just priceless. Apparently the size of this optic is unreal, we don't want this since only real navy seals can handle something of this size .

Uh, how exactly was he hostile? And what makes you think hes wrong? I see no evidence to back up any such claim. Furthermore, what does time of membership have to do with subject matter knowledge? Are you saying if i joined in 09 then i would automatically be given the benefit of the doubt in any conversation? It seems that it does, as well as the meaningless post count numbers; often used as an arguement that a low post count member doesnt know what they are talking about.

[ProtectThe2nd]

OP, I'll be honest I don't know much about this optic...

you've been here since '09 and have 1200+ posts...you must know everything about this optic and are just holding out

[Niviticus]

Uh, how exactly was he hostile? And what makes you think hes wrong? I see no evidence to back up any such claim. Furthermore, what does time of membership have to do with subject matter knowledge? Are you saying if i joined in 09 then i would automatically be given the benefit of the doubt in any conversation? It seems that it does, as well as the meaningless post count numbers; often used as an arguement that a low post count member doesnt know what they are talking about.

The hostile member I was speaking of is you. I quoted ifixit just calling him out on a bunch of bull **** he pulled out of his *** about the optic. Join date and post count do not equate to knowledge, but what I was referring to is the fact that newer members like yourself have little respect for other members. I brought up hostility not lack of knowledge from newer members. I've found most of your posts amusing and like reading your posts for the most part but sometimes you just come across as a know it all bully. Are you seriously asking me to present evidence when it was clear someone else is making a claim you know damn well is just a guess. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to present evidence of his claim? You have an interesting way of thinking, are you a lawyer by chance?

[Niviticus]

you've been here since '09 and have 1200+ posts...you must know everything about this optic and are just holding out

Ive never claimed to know everything. If anything it's you that seems to know about everything. Wow, with an average of over 2 posts a day ever since you joined, you must be full of knowledge your dying to share. If I knew as much as you my post count would be at close to 6000.

[ProtectThe2nd]

Ive never claimed to know everything. If anything it's you that seems to know about everything. Wow, with an average of over 2 posts a day ever since you joined, you must be full of knowledge your dying to share. If I knew as much as you my post count would be at close to 6000.

You'll make a fine moderator...

[CouchOperator]

Ive never claimed to know everything. If anything it's you that seems to know about everything. Wow, with an average of over 2 posts a day ever since you joined, you must be full of knowledge your dying to share. If I knew as much as you my post count would be at close to 6000.

Most of my threads and posts include information which i am more than happy to be corrected on, if you can find conclusive facts to prove me wrong its a learning experience for myself. Go for it, im all for learning

Edit: didnt see you werent referring to me.

I did see your above comment and will admit i come across blunt, but ive given up trying to beat around the bush and just get straight to the point of whatever im trying to get across

[ProtectThe2nd]

The hostile member I was speaking of is you.

LOL, I just knew he was gonna post that...
It's ok Couch, as he said in his reply to me,
he doesn't post enough per day to have a grip
on changes that happen over time

[CouchOperator]

LOL, I just knew he was gonna post that...
It's ok Couch, as he said in his reply to me,
he doesn't post enough per day to have a grip
on changes that happen over time

[Niviticus]

Yeah I'll give you that, it would get pretty boring. You do know how to entertain lol. I have no hard feelings, I think alot of your posts are funny. But for someone that doesn't know how blunt you are, they will most likely take it the wrong way.

[CouchOperator]

Yeah I'll give you that, it would get pretty boring. You do know how to entertain lol. I have no hard feelings, I think alot of your posts are funny. But for someone that doesn't know how blunt you are, they will most likely take it the wrong way.

True. Ill give you that. I usually back off unless its a clear sign of willful ignorance, then i just cant help myself but to egg them on and i get carried away. Ive been better about that lately for sure

[Niviticus]

LOL, I just knew he was gonna post that...
It's ok Couch, as he said in his reply to me,
he doesn't post enough per day to have a grip
on changes that happen over time

So you must believe that post count equates to knowledge. Looks like you'll make a great senor member throwing your post count in people's faces.

[readysetgo]

Anybody know a good deal on Self Control? Been looking for some genuine American made stuff.

Any experience with the stuff?

[Niviticus]

Anybody know a good deal on Self Control? Been looking for some genuine American made stuff.

Any experience with the stuff?

Hey, don't ruin my ballbusting over here. I only do this like once every couple of years so let me have my fun lol.

[ProtectThe2nd]

Hey, don't ruin my ballbusting over here. I only do this like once every couple of years so let me have my fun lol.

its only fun if you get under someones skin...me thinks you lack the practice...LOL

The hostility you spoke about from newer members is bred from the contempt displayed by "old" members like you...the ones who lash out at the newbie...calling him n00b and referring to their lowly post count...I see it far too often around here. It takes a thicker skin that most don't have...it's a reason why most newer members who get called out quit posting, unfortunately.

I just post twice a day to amuse people like you who go fishing in someone's public profile looking for dirt to toss...one day I'll reach Couch's total and people like you won't post ***** talk. Unfortunately you're the pot calling the kettle black, but whatever dude, have you had your fill yet? LMAO