M1 garand value

[DesertWalker]

Could this be a sticky? Am just starting to become involved with Garands and would hate for this information to be buried 50 pages down the C&R list. Or if there is a better forum to learn, please advise. Thanks. :-)

^^^^ Same here....

There is always the CMP Forum, which when you see it, proves how much there is to learn. From my experience, I like to ask the Calguns C&R sub-forum first, because you usually get a quick and informed response.

There are guys here who have been studying Garands or whatever for years, and are able to put thoughts into plain language for us newbies. The CMP forum is great, but I get lost in the jargon and acronyms in about 30 seconds.

[2761377]

the CMP forum

while there are many knowledgeable members there, you would be best served to buy a couple books and read your way to enlightenment. as with any forum, it has it's share of blowhards and FUD spreaders. Canfield and Duff have both put out extremely valuable, well-researched NON-fiction books about the rifle. look at the CMP forum as a resource where your knowledge can be used to further your goals.

my time spent on the CMP forum often results in the same feeling I got at the Western Games at Pendleton in '05 and '06. standing around the CMP trailer while Garand noobs examined rifles for sale- grasping and greedy people who dispelled the myth that the hobby attracts quality learned and gracious aficinados.

[aghauler]

Could this be a sticky? Am just starting to become involved with Garands and would hate for this information to be buried 50 pages down the C&R list. Or if there is a better forum to learn, please advise. Thanks. :-)

Check yer PMs

[aghauler]

while there are many knowledgeable members there, you would be best served to buy a couple books and read your way to enlightenment. as with any forum, it has it's share of blowhards and FUD spreaders. Canfield and Duff have both put out extremely valuable, well-researched NON-fiction books about the rifle. look at the CMP forum as a resource where your knowledge can be used to further your goals.

my time spent on the CMP forum often results in the same feeling I got at the Western Games at Pendleton in '05 and '06. standing around the CMP trailer while Garand noobs examined rifles for sale- grasping and greedy people who dispelled the myth that the hobby attracts quality learned and gracious aficinados.

Sounds like the feeding frenzy and jerkoids when CMP came out to Reno! Guys trying to cherry pick for themselves, their buddy, their cousin, their cousin's buddy etc, with no regard for anyone else. CMP staff finally had to encourage those pinheads to move and let someone else in guys were standing 3-4 deep waiting to get a chance to check the rifles out! Orest picked out a nice "Less Wood" for me which I received a couple weeks later. Too bad they don't sell the complete "Less Wood" rifles any longer, I've got several sets of USGI handguards and a stock or two that need "filling".

[I Swan]

I always laugh at the myth that gun people are great some of the worst people I've met have been in to guns. The ammo gougers/flippers should be proof enough. Behavior at CMP event is another example.

[NOTABIKER]

As soon as the last CMP garand is sold and if no more are allowed to be imported the lowest price you will see on a M1 will be over 1,000 dollars. I have not seen one in a gun store or pawn shop for less than 1,200. and many are 1,500. this forum is not the place you will find the real world prices on M1s. Most gun buyers are strictly RETAIL.

[Discogodfather]

Alittle priciey? $1500 for a $625 Service Grade is more than alittle pricey

?? Service grade Garand? Maybe take another look at that one. It's part of the myth of the CMP that everything is cheap and available, maybe back in the day but there are no rifles available in any of their retail categories that are really worth much. A complete teardown of the rifle with all of its bits recorded and an upfront seller is worth any extra money. Sure if you live close to the CMP store maybe it is worth the trip, you might be able to cheery pick something for a slightly better deal.

On another topic, I agree with the sentiments expressed here, the CMP fanbois and some of the Garand "collecting" community can be an extremely mean bunch of people, and I think everyone is starting to notice that. Angry, mean, greedy, and very stingy with any real information. I also don't like how the CMP throws everything of collecting value at auction and drip feeds the market to keep prices insanely high.

It's bizarre that anyone would value originality in a firearm that was designed to be completely interchangeable and modular. Springfield, etc, cared little about matching anything and it was all pretty random anyway, so why the over zealous attention to numbers?

[NOTABIKER]

The collectors are such a small % of M1 owners but they are very vocal. I do not give a rip who made the parts in my garand or any other surplus rifle i own. mechanical and visual condition are all that matter to me. I am lucky to have one Garand .

[Mud Eagle]

I also don't like how the CMP throws everything of collecting value at auction and drip feeds the market to keep prices insanely high.

1. CMP sales exists to make money to support their main mission of the promotion of marksmanship. It is not a supply source for collectors. While I appreciate their pricing and have benefitted from being able to purchase from the DCM and CMP, I would not have any heartburn if, in order to better support their endowment and longer support marksmanship, they raised their prices on what they sell.

2. "Insanely high"? Ever since I have been cognizant of firearms, ammo, and accessories (since the mid 80s, so not that long), the DCM and CMP have had well-below-market-value prices on nearly everything they sold. The value of those items is determined nearly completely by factors well outside of the rate at which CMP sells their stock.

[NOTABIKER]

The word collector covers everybody that owes a few Garands to the very serious that matching part numbers mean everything to them. My only problem with the serious collectors is they do not understand most of us just want a nice M1. to consider a nice looking and functioning Garand inferior because it is not all matching is laughable.
I was selling a 1918 Kar 98a mauser a while ago and a possible buyer complained that the hand guard was polish. YES this Mauser was in the polish army from 1920 to the German innovation in 1939. geeeez

[Citadelgrad87]

according to Duff, that would mean your rifle is somewhere between 498xxx and 542xxx.

close?

Hmmm. Close. 735xxx.

I looked it up once on an online resource that I can no longer find, but I wrote it down.

What does duffs say about 700k?

[Orlando]

?? Service grade Garand? Maybe take another look at that one. It's part of the myth of the CMP that everything is cheap and available, maybe back in the day but there are no rifles available in any of their retail categories that are really worth much. A complete teardown of the rifle with all of its bits recorded and an upfront seller is worth any extra money. Sure if you live close to the CMP store maybe it is worth the trip, you might be able to cheery pick something for a slightly better deal.

On another topic, I agree with the sentiments expressed here, the CMP fanbois and some of the Garand "collecting" community can be an extremely mean bunch of people, and I think everyone is starting to notice that. Angry, mean, greedy, and very stingy with any real information. I also don't like how the CMP throws everything of collecting value at auction and drip feeds the market to keep prices insanely high.

It's bizarre that anyone would value originality in a firearm that was designed to be completely interchangeable and modular. Springfield, etc, cared little about matching anything and it was all pretty random anyway, so why the over zealous attention to numbers?

You need to spend some time on the CMP forum and see how nice the $625 Service Grades are that are coming mail order.They are very nice cosmetically and great shooters. Very low muzzle, throat wear and very little wearto finish. Yes some do come with commercial stocks but many are still coming with nice USGI wood

[2761377]

Hmmm. Close. 735xxx.

I looked it up once on an online resource that I can no longer find, but I wrote it down.

What does duffs say about 700k?

in his Red book under table 4.5 Springfield Armory Approximate Month End Serial Numbers July 1942 ends with 749779. June 1942 ended 691401.

hth

[Citadelgrad87]

in his Red book under table 4.5 Springfield Armory Approximate Month End Serial Numbers July 1942 ends with 749779. June 1942 ended 691401.

hth

I can live with July instead of March.

My belief is it saw some action. The action legs are badly pitted, but the rest of it is in great condition. I tell myself it got wet, really wet, at some point, and although the exposed parts were cared for, the pitting in the area concealed by the stock is a function of necessity.

Thank you.

[I Swan]

I'm also sure some people at CMP would like to keep their jobs for as long as possible.When the last Garands are sold I'm sure some will be let go. What would you all suggest they should do with the more collectible Garands? Leave in the stores for their friends and family to cherry pick or?