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  • #16
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    Originally posted by SVT-40
    Also the Chinese security force marked rifles. They will have this marking on the right side of the receiver.
    Yes, finally one that I also have! IIRC, I bought this one from a guy who bought it from SVT-40.
    s1156.photobucket.com/user/bobby_ricigliano/media/Chinese%20SKS/5aa87e3d7941c6d6c1466e3807fbc984.jpg.html][/URL]

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    • #17
      Dan_Eastvale
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2013
      • 10254

      I do like my Chinese security forces version. Unusual in that it has newer and older features such as a milled trigger group yet a pinned as opposed to a threaded barrel. However, it is all matching. Some securities also have the threaded barrels. Overall finish is nicer, maybe because they were meant to be carried in public....nicer appearance. This one from factory 016.

      I am curious if that Precision Degree Rifle of SVT-40 has a pinned or threaded barrel.
      Last edited by Dan_Eastvale; 04-30-2017, 9:48 AM.

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      • #18
        Gutter
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 1215

        Interesting. What's the going rate on security force guns?

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        • #19
          Dan_Eastvale
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2013
          • 10254

          Securities can bid for $400+ when they do show up. Or cheaper when the seller doesn't realize it's a security.... (just another sks)

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          • #20
            SVT-40
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2008
            • 12894

            Originally posted by Gutter
            When were most of these imported? I'm assuming no time recently.
            Back in the late 80's and early 90's

            Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
            I do like my Chinese security forces version. Unusual in that it has newer and older features such as a milled trigger group yet a pinned as opposed to a threaded barrel. However, it is all matching. Some securities also have the threaded barrels. Overall finish is nicer, maybe because they were meant to be carried in public....nicer appearance. This one from factory 016.

            I am curious if that Precision Degree Rifle of SVT-40 has a pinned or threaded barrel.
            It's pinned. Arsenal 416. Box is also marked with the Chinese characters, and the rifle is not import marked... I bought it and another PDG directly from the importer, Thomas Yu owner and president of Thomas Trans-National Corp. Thomas was the actual importer who then sold the remaining rifles to Val Forgett, who was the owner of Navy Arms....








            The back side of the letter from TT Nat Corp


            Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
            Yes, finally one that I also have! IIRC, I bought this one from a guy who bought it from SVT-40.
            Yup it was once mine... Funny the guy who bought it from me said he would never part with it......Two weeks later he sold it to you. I guess I sold it way to cheap.....But in ended up in good hands so I'm very happy about that!!!!
            Poke'm with a stick!


            Originally posted by fiddletown
            What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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            • #21
              Gutter
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1215

              Found a security force SKS and am going through talks now trying to get it to a reasonable price.

              This was a lot of good info on the Chinese and it's definitely grown my want list. What about Russians? What are the different variants that are most collectable?

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              • #22
                SVT-40
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2008
                • 12894

                Every year of production, and from both arsenals...No refurbished rifles.
                Poke'm with a stick!


                Originally posted by fiddletown
                What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                • #23
                  Saigon1965
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 17276

                  SVT-40 - Mine is a bit different in stamping than the example you have -

                  With an underscore in the "No" -

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                  • #24
                    Bobby Ricigliano
                    Mit Gott und Mauser
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 17439

                    Originally posted by Gutter
                    Do you have a further breakdown? You have good taste which is why I ask. For Chicoms I have:

                    Sub-5 digit sterile Sino Soviet
                    Letter prefix Sino Soviet
                    Soviet Sino if I ever come across one

                    Matching of course with the side rear sling swivels of course. I'd be interested to see what you value in true Russians.
                    You are much too kind. I have a peculiar fascination and admiration for the SKS that goes above all other C&R weapons.

                    I have sold off all the ones I was meh about or unhappy with the condition or various flaws. I want shooters, but I like nice shooters. Therefore I have no beaters or mixmasters or bubbas anymore. What's left is the cream of the crop and forever off the market. And despite my year end pronouncements, I cannot stop looking for interesting SKS rifles as finances permit.

                    Here is what I have, all of which are considered 'prized' to me.

                    Late model Norinco with blade bayonet
                    1960's era factory /26\ (I think), as new, all matching, still in light cosmo
                    Security Forces SKS
                    Paratrooper (Just bought)

                    Unfired, matching unrefurbed Romanian i
                    All matching Romanian, perfect condition, but refinished stock (looks good), delightful shooter

                    Yugo 59/66
                    Yugo 59/66 Bought new drenched in cosmo, never fired, perfect
                    PAP 59, matching nice stock, fabulous shooter
                    PAP 59, matching, maybe unfired

                    Tula laminated 1952 all matching
                    Tula hardwood 1953 all matching (forced match stock)
                    Tula Hardwood 1954, maybe unfired, no refurb marks or bbq
                    Tula 55/56 all matching still in KBI box with accessories

                    So we are at 14 total. I traded my Alby for a beautiful Soringfield Garand, but I will be getting another one soon hopefully.

                    Overall I am real happy with my collection!
                    Last edited by Bobby Ricigliano; 03-05-2014, 4:09 AM.

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                    • #25
                      SVT-40
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 12894

                      Originally posted by Saigon1965
                      SVT-40 - Mine is a bit different in stamping than the example you have -

                      With an underscore in the "No" -

                      Yeah thats the third type I was trying to describe...I was off where the underscore was. Thanks for posting that.
                      Poke'm with a stick!


                      Originally posted by fiddletown
                      What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                      • #26
                        Bobby Ricigliano
                        Mit Gott und Mauser
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 17439

                        Oh so many variants out there. Speaking of variants, I got a few bucks in my pocket and went full retard over the last week or so. The following are inbound from GB buys:

                        Chinese Paratrooper
                        Chinese French Tickler
                        Albanian

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                        • #27
                          Dan_Eastvale
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 10254

                          Nice to see you back on the SKS bandwagon Bobby.

                          Now if you can find one of the rare experimental sheet metal receiver variants.

                          You'll need to keep that Chinese French Tickler next to Narcissa,,,, keep her happy..

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                          • #28
                            Gutter
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1215

                            So that was you that outbid me on the Alby

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                            • #29
                              Bobby Ricigliano
                              Mit Gott und Mauser
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 17439

                              Nope, that wasn't me. My GB handle is the same as here. I do know the one you are speaking of though.

                              This is the one I bought yesterday along with the two Chicoms (Seller's photos)

                              Alby


                              Paratrooper


                              French Tickler


                              The two Chicoms are without bayonets but they were easy and cheap to find.
                              Last edited by Bobby Ricigliano; 03-10-2014, 12:26 PM.

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                              • #30
                                saki302
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 7187

                                Holy grail IMO is NVA or North Korea. I've only seen them in pictures.

                                -Dave

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