Why is the C&R Forum so dead?

[One78Shovel]

Not sure if it seems this way to you but it seems to me that the C&R board has been really dead compared to just a few months ago. In your opinion is it:

1. Post Holiday hangover, too busy catching up with work to post much?

2. California's new registration laws have put a damper on C&R collecting?

3. Normal January lull, people are at SHOT show, etc.

What do you think? I'm not seeing many of us post about cool new guns we found, very many technical questions or identify this type questions and I am curious what you think the cause is.

For me it's the registration thing. Pistols we have to live with but the surplus weapons I had just soon not register.

Just me

-178S

[19K]

For those of you who are voting with your feet, congratulations and good luck. For the rest of us poor saps who are stuck here in the trenches for the time being, C&R life must go on. We should look at the tiny silver lining, those of us with FFL03 + COE can now buy Albanians and Yugos with no FFL01 or ten day, that's something..

grenade launcher is still a DD. and wont removing the grenade launcher remove C&R status?

[sealocan]

I definitely think its number 2.
and now we lost that ability to cash N Carry C&R long arms. I don't think we'll ever get it back in California.

now that old but and usable condition $150 rifle/shotgun is $150 plus DROS fee, (and probably) plus tax, plus FFL dealer fee/markup.

it's just not the same.

[knucklehead0202]

yep, between commie laws and losing my job, the wind is really out of my sales. I still have an interest in c&r but I won't be buying any here most likely. I hope the idiots that came up with this bs all die in a plane crash or something, really kinda screws up a big part of being a collector and shooter.

[Nevada Hudson]

You could always vote with your feet.

I did!

[stevied]

Forget ammo, reloading supplies! If you shoot C&Rs, you should be reloading. Other than for Mosins and perhaps SKS, reloading all of the other popular C&R calibers is SUCH a better deal. I still can't come even close to that Russkie spam can price though.

I already have about 14lbs of powder; I do need to pick up some 308 smk for the swiss though. I just buy bulk x39 (steel) and x54r because it's not worth reloading those. I've been buying a can here and there of 30.06 from cmp too and have been saving the brass to start reloading that as well.

[DannyInSoCal]

Thank a liberal....

[BroncoBob]

I really don't want to be a party pooper but I'm pretty sure the C&R party is over, really want to get depressed check out the Approved Roster of Safe Handguns.............

[Capybara]

grenade launcher is still a DD. and wont removing the grenade launcher remove C&R status?

I honestly don't know. I almost bought a 59/66 with the GL removed, of course, from Big 5 last year but that wouldn't have been a C&R transaction. Bobby or other SKS fan, have an answer for this?

[Capybara]

I already have about 14lbs of powder; I do need to pick up some 308 smk for the swiss though. I just buy bulk x39 (steel) and x54r because it's not worth reloading those. I've been buying a can here and there of 30.06 from cmp too and have been saving the brass to start reloading that as well.

Good man. Smart decision. I only have some 7.62x39 brass and some 7.62x54r brass so I can occasionally shoot those guns at ranges that won't let me shoot the surplus. But I mostly shoot the surplus out of both rifles most of the time. It feels weird to shoot .58 per round brass out of a Mosin.

[highpower]

Don't know about the rest of the usual suspects on this forum, but I've been too busy getting my things in order so that I can move to a state that still honors cash and carry. Does that qualify under #2?

This what I'm doing, I just put a house in escrow in the free state of Nevada.

[Armistice]

I, unfortunately, don't have the room in my apt for reloading, but I do keep my brass... and steel, lol, for when I have an actual house and can have a reloading station. By then I should have hundreds of rounds saved up

[joefrank64k]

grenade launcher is still a DD. and wont removing the grenade launcher remove C&R status?

IIRC: Yes removing the GL removes the C&R status. I think there were some MAS49 rifles that had their GL's removed at the French armory. I suppose those would still be C&R since they are in 'original' military configuration.

YMMV. IMHO. ABC. 123.

[rdfact]

2. California's new registration laws have put a damper on C&R collecting?
4. Bobby R. has bought all the good stuff.

[Discogodfather]

Case and point: Many people wonder when the US Gov is going to start releasing M14's, like to the CMP, etc. Answer: it's never going to happen. No government is ever going to release any full auto design that will make it into the USA.

There are really no more stores of bolt action or SA only military guns in the world. Add to that UN weapons treaties, a general cultural decline of valuing military history, and an aging demographic that does.

C&R is truly a thing of the past. It was honestly taken for granted for so long and the value is being realized in current prices. We laugh at Big 5 Mosins but the we also laughed at $25 barrels full of K98's, the $100 SKS, and the $150 M1 carbine.

I am 36 and started collecting in the late 90's, started going to gun shows with my dad in the 80's. None of my gun friends my age are into C&R, it's almost always me and some very gray haired guys.