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  • #46
    cplbuck
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 113

    Any heat or liquid would make the wood swell making things worse. I would take the barrel and action out of the stock and put it in a freezer for a while. I do not think the barrel would shrink very much before the wood will. Then tap it out with a brass rod that is as close to the diameter of the barrel as possible. Do you know if the guy stuck the dowel in through the barrel or receiver end? One way will pound it in worse and the other will get it out.

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    • #47
      McNally M.
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1088

      Originally posted by cplbuck
      Any heat or liquid would make the wood swell making things worse. I would take the barrel and action out of the stock and put it in a freezer for a while. I do not think the barrel would shrink very much before the wood will. Then tap it out with a brass rod that is as close to the diameter of the barrel as possible. Do you know if the guy stuck the dowel in through the barrel or receiver end? One way will pound it in worse and the other will get it out.
      The dowel was pounded in down the muzzel toward the receiver.
      "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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      • #48
        cplbuck
        Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 113

        I just saw the pics, holy crap do you have a problem on your hands. The termite idea is starting to sound good. I would use a brass rod pounding it in towards the receiver. Not the best way but its the only way you will get a chance at hitting a good flat surface. You should be able to chip the wood away enough in the barrel to get a flat surface. Brass rod and hammer away. Try the freezer. Who knows, it might work. I'm really interested in hearing how it goes.

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        • #49
          BruinGuy
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1456

          Look on the bright side: it really can't get wedged in there any worse!
          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          Keep in mind that you don't have a clue.

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          • #50
            Ryan in SD
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1966

            Its too bad they are 9 feet long, Id put it in an oven.

            Also, merry christmas.

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            Other wise, small diameter drill and size up extensions until you are all the way through. Then put a high tension braided cable through it, then tie a 5/16< ball or fishing weight and pull it through like a squeegee.

            Or air hammer with longer and longer brass rams...
            Last edited by Ryan in SD; 12-25-2013, 10:41 AM.

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            • #51
              bigbossman
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2012
              • 10987

              Is there any way you can turn the dowel to "unscrew" it using the rifling twist to help? Maybe sink a long drywall screw into one end and use a low speed driver to turn it the right way?

              Just spit-balling, but you really need a hail-Mary to get that dowel out of there...............
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              • #52
                McNally M.
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1088

                I considered using a screw, but I think that twisting it into the dowel would only widen it compounding the problem. Also, I don't know that freezing is a viable option, my ice chest isn't that big.. Would heating up the barrel really make the wood expand? My thoughts were that heat makes moisture exit wood, shrinking it a little and hardening it. Which wouldn't be a bad thing in my situation since it would keep the dowel from splitting any further.
                "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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                • #53
                  Vlad 11
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 2961

                  Ok , well I didnt realize there is something to grab in the receiver. This is a huge plus

                  The dowel is buggered beyond being able to squarely pound with a rod at the muzzle. That's only going to make matters worse now. I'm thinking drilling should be a last resort as the risk of bore damage is high

                  I think it can be pulled out

                  There are specialized tools to remove/pull dowels, studs, pins. These consist of a gripping collet and slide hammer. Grip the dowel than slide hammer provides the pull to remove





                  It does not look like youll be able to fit a collet in there. (And even less likely you have this tool)

                  But you may have a regular slide hammer or access to one. And use the same concept

                  My idea is to get some 1/8" 550 paracord cinched on that protruding end. Then attach the cord to the slide hammer and bap that MF'r out of there.

                  Maybe use a sailors hitch. Or similar gripping knot





                  In lieu of a slide hammer, some type of winch could be used.

                  Getting some type of lubrication in the bore may be beneficial. Just keep it off the area youll tie onto

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                  • #54
                    hambam105
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7083

                    Leave the obstruction alone.
                    Bring same with you to the next CGN meetup.
                    Each person donates $2 bucks and has 2 minutes to clear the obstruction. Contestants keep rotating two bucks until bore is clear.
                    Winner wins bragging rights.
                    OP now has enough money to replace the entire rifle.
                    GunRags have to pay me for the pictures and the story.

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                    • #55
                      knucklehead0202
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 4086

                      ^^^ I like his idea!

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                      • #56
                        McNally M.
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1088

                        So do I! It'll be like pulling Excaliber from the stone, whoever does will reign king over the domain of repairing C&Rs. I'll even let the winning contestant keep the dowel!
                        "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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                        • #57
                          TRAP55
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 5536

                          In two minutes? Cool, no problem!
                          "There is no problem, that can't be solved, with a suitable amount of properly placed high explosives".

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                          • #58
                            pigman
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 684

                            use a pair of dykes to gently grab the exposed down and pry the dowel back out using the rifle as leverage, leather or brass flat to pry against.
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                            • #59
                              TRAP55
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5536

                              This from a friend that's had to remove them from muzzle loaders. If you've seen "Last of the Mohicans", you've seen some of his rifles.

                              That is an easy one to get out. Take a steel cleaning rod and a torch. heat end of cleaning rod cherry red and burn out the mashed end. Keep heating the cleaning rod and sticking it in the dowel rod. You will eventually go all the way through, to where you can drive the dowel rod out. DO NOT soak the dowel rod with water, oil, or any liquid. All that will do is swell the rod thus making it harder to get out. A torch and a cleaning rod will do it. Will take time, but it will work.

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                              • #60
                                DennisCA
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 4021

                                Give it to "TheExpertish" you never see the blockage (or the gun) again!

                                Sorry had to go there......
                                "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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