Mosin Nagant accuracy test! :D

[ziconceo]

went shooting and posted a conclusion on the first post!

[NapalmCheese]

You say your RCBS die sized your cases too small. Is it me, or is it more likely that your reduced power loads didn't achieve a high enough pressure to properly obturate?

[ziconceo]

^ There was not any unburnt powder in the barrel as far as I could tell. Nor in the cases, it all burnt

[bigbossman]

You say your RCBS die sized your cases too small. Is it me, or is it more likely that your reduced power loads didn't achieve a high enough pressure to properly obdurate?

^ There was not any unburnt powder in the barrel as far as I could tell. Nor in the cases, it all burnt

The absence of unburned powder nothing to do with the ability of a given load to properly obdurate the brass.

[MongooseV8]

Hay guyz I'm a gonna threw some nifes up in the aire this weekend too sea were they land. Shud I use klip point tanto point or spere pointed nifes? Serated or not?

I has done this hundreds of times and I never been stabbed in the faice once! So Fu all the haters my plan is sooper safe.

[Grendl]

Just use string and you'll be fine.

[ziconceo]

Okay, some of you guys need to stop being dicks. Nothing bad happened and I CONFIRMED what people were saying. But I was correct on several parts. no one could provide PROOF as to why these loads were bad to use, now I have proof and other people can learn from facts instead of what goes down the grapevine.

here is further evidence pistol primers work for rifle rounds:

325 GR. BAR XPB Hodgdon Longshot .500" 2.290" 22.5 1599 43,300 PSI 24.5 1684 49,500 PSI Cartridge: 500 S&W Magnum


150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon BL-C(2) .308" 2.875" 52.0 2878 40,200 CUP 55.5 3027 46,300 CUP 7.62x54r

pressures are nearly the same!!!! in fact the pistol round is even more pressure!

This was taken from the hornady site

Hornady manufactured .500S&W ammunition has and will continue to use large pistol primers in its commercial product. Do Not attempt to use rifle primers with Hornady head-stamped .500S&W brass.

This proves that it in fact safe to use large magnum pistol primers in moderately loaded rifle rounds.

[MongooseV8]

Well first off the 500 S&W is not a rifle cartridge, its a handgun cartridge sometimes used in rifles.

Secondly the absence of evidence is not proof. Example: Because I have done something x amount of times and I have not blown my face off does not mean something bad will not happen.

Nobody here is out to get you. We just want you to think smartly and make good choices.

[sl0re10]

Okay, some of you guys need to stop being dicks. Nothing bad happened and I CONFIRMED what people were saying. But I was correct on several parts. no one could provide PROOF as to why these loads were bad to use, now I have proof and other people can learn from facts instead of what goes down the grapevine.

here is further evidence pistol primers work for rifle rounds:

325 GR. BAR XPB Hodgdon Longshot .500" 2.290" 22.5 1599 43,300 PSI 24.5 1684 49,500 PSI Cartridge: 500 S&W Magnum


150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon BL-C(2) .308" 2.875" 52.0 2878 40,200 CUP 55.5 3027 46,300 CUP 7.62x54r

pressures are nearly the same!!!! in fact the pistol round is even more pressure!

This was taken from the hornady site

Hornady manufactured .500S&W ammunition has and will continue to use large pistol primers in its commercial product. Do Not attempt to use rifle primers with Hornady head-stamped .500S&W brass.

This proves that it in fact safe to use large magnum pistol primers in moderately loaded rifle rounds.

There are more than one kind of pistol primer... sorta like powder is not equal between brands or lines. I have some small rifle primers that I can't safely use in .223 rounds even with low pressure loading recipes... the metal just must be weaker than other types of small rifle primers... because this thickness is the same as CCI magnum small rifle primers and those work fine for me with this low pressure load or even higher pressure loads (the firing pin just makes a little dot... vs. digging a little hole.. which didn't go all the way through but its really close)...

If what you have now works; cool. But use the string again if you switch brands or 'model' of pistol primer.

[emcon5]

here is further evidence pistol primers work for rifle rounds:

325 GR. BAR XPB Hodgdon Longshot .500" 2.290" 22.5 1599 43,300 PSI 24.5 1684 49,500 PSI Cartridge: 500 S&W Magnum

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon BL-C(2) .308" 2.875" 52.0 2878 40,200 CUP 55.5 3027 46,300 CUP 7.62x54r

pressures are nearly the same!!!! in fact the pistol round is even more pressure!

This was taken from the hornady site

Got a link? The reason I ask, is the Hornady loading manual I have lists the primer for their 500 S&W Magnum handgun loads as WLR.

[ziconceo]

^ Yes sir I do heres the link for the loads:

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

heres a link for the quote hornady said:

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-500-SandW-Revolver-10-inch-Barrel.asp

its in the orange colored text box where it says they use pistol primers

[TRAP55]

Ignorance, and I use the word in it's simplest form, "not knowing", is a factor of risk, especially when you mess with things that go boom.
The word "Magnum" when applied to cartridge primers, denotes a primer with a bigger ignition flash, and a thicker construction.
There is a small list of things associated with reloading that are set in stone. This is why reloading manuals from bullet and powder manufactures are constantly updated. Reloading data for a given load 30 yrs ago, may provide your with a trip to the ER today.
Powder type, burn rate, lot number, case design/shape, bolt thrust, bullet type, freebore, and firing pin protrusion/diameter, are just a small fraction of the variables you have to add into the equation.
Leave one out, and that risk factor just jumped. If you juggle live grenades, at least make sure the pins are still bent.