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  • #46
    ziconceo
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 3269

    Originally posted by mosinnagantm9130




    Why? I thought you'd shot in hundreds of times in three other mosins
    Of the 2 other charges yes...but not the hogdon so much, I remember there being a lot of sunburn powder haha

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    • #47
      ziconceo
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      • Aug 2011
      • 3269

      Originally posted by Grendl
      Guess he's dead? Shoulda listened :-(
      Lol no I'm not dead I've been working from 3:00am to 2:00pm and I took a nice nap. I'm going to the range soon today though

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      • #48
        vincewarde
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 1911

        I would like to add that there are powders actually designed for reduced loads......

        SR 4759 is specifically designed for lower velocity, lower recoil loads in centerfire rifles.

        If you are looking for really low power loads, perhaps with cast bullets, Unique has the advantage of being position insensitive - meaning you don't need filler.

        Although it was aimed at the cowboy action market, lots of people are using it for reduced loads in bottleneck cartridges.

        Let me add my voice to the chorus advocating caution. Always start with loads from a source you trust and do not make any radical changes. If you change anything (primer, case, bullet - even seating depth) drop the powder charge by 10% and work back up carefully.

        Finally, you will almost certainly find that your most accurate loads will be 5-10% below maximum. My policy is to start 10% below maximum and work up .5 grains at a time, not just checking for pressure, but shooting groups for accuracy as well.

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        • #49
          IdahoShooter
          Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 126

          I think he did die, still no range report.

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          • #50
            ziconceo
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 3269

            Originally posted by IdahoShooter
            I think he did die, still no range report.
            Still kickin haha scope was shooting 5 ft high, had to shim the front then go to class. On my way back home right now and then off to the range

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            • #51
              IdahoShooter
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 126

              Be safe

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              • #52
                ziconceo
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 3269

                Well that's just fu*kin great! My stupid scope ring screw stripped !!!! The recoil was too much for it! I'm going to message accumount and get new screws for the rings. I can't belive this! I've waited a month to get everything together and shoot this and the screws strip?!?!?!?! Really??!?!?!

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                • #53
                  Justintoxicated
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3836

                  Originally posted by vincewarde
                  I would like to add that there are powders actually designed for reduced loads......

                  SR 4759 is specifically designed for lower velocity, lower recoil loads in centerfire rifles.

                  If you are looking for really low power loads, perhaps with cast bullets, Unique has the advantage of being position insensitive - meaning you don't need filler.

                  Although it was aimed at the cowboy action market, lots of people are using it for reduced loads in bottleneck cartridges.

                  Let me add my voice to the chorus advocating caution. Always start with loads from a source you trust and do not make any radical changes. If you change anything (primer, case, bullet - even seating depth) drop the powder charge by 10% and work back up carefully.

                  Finally, you will almost certainly find that your most accurate loads will be 5-10% below maximum. My policy is to start 10% below maximum and work up .5 grains at a time, not just checking for pressure, but shooting groups for accuracy as well.
                  Interesting my most accurate mosin load seemed closer to my starting load, granted We were shooting at 50 yards only. I think it was using 174gr .311 SMK, Varget

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                  • #54
                    Flouncer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 1307

                    Just throw out all the collective wisdom of people way smarter than us, with way more money and time and instruments than us, all the the wisdom surrounding a hundred and 10 year old cartridge and forge ahead, Amigo.

                    How do you subscribe to a thread because this one is just absolutely awesome ?

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                    • #55
                      sl0re10
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7242

                      Originally posted by mosinnagantm9130




                      Why? I thought you'd shot in hundreds of times in three other mosins
                      Hopefully he will remote pull the trigger with no one around the rifle (like he said he is going to do)....

                      But also; while most people centered on the powder charge I wanted to reiterate the use of pistol primers is also not only dangerous... its really dangerous on a mosin since there is not a shield built in to stop the heat coming out the back of a round with a 'broken all the way through primer'. More modern rifles would take the hit themselves... and possibly be damaged; but they shield the shooter while doing so.

                      I did some experiments with rifle primers not recommended for 223 use... I used low pressure charges (41,000 psi). The firing pin still almost went through them (the dent was so long I had to hold the shells up to a light to make sure they didn't have holes)... anyway; I gave up on them after the test shots..... wrong primers are the wrong primers...
                      Last edited by sl0re10; 11-14-2013, 6:23 PM.

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                      • #56
                        sl0re10
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7242

                        Originally posted by Grendl
                        Guess he's dead? Shoulda listened :-(
                        Naaa; just has to learn to type using a stick in his mouth.

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                        • #57
                          ducky_0811
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 759

                          what? no sub moa results from his string fired test rounds he's fired many times before in other rifles? I guess the range he goes to doesnt have a problem when people tie strings to their triggers and back off to fire them.

                          if the results werent satisfactory, you may want to work on your string pull, a consistent pull is necessary for uniform grouping, but you probably already knew that since youre used to testing accuracy by remote firing your rifles

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                          • #58
                            Dannicus
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                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2577

                            Originally posted by ziconceo
                            Well that's just fu*kin great! My stupid scope ring screw stripped !!!! The recoil was too much for it! I'm going to message accumount and get new screws for the rings. I can't belive this! I've waited a month to get everything together and shoot this and the screws strip?!?!?!?! Really??!?!?!

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                            Did you start off with the PPU?

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                            • #59
                              ziconceo
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                              • Aug 2011
                              • 3269

                              Originally posted by Dannicus
                              Did you start off with the PPU?
                              Yea I did, the accuracy was great untill the screw stripped

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                              • #60
                                ziconceo
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                                • Aug 2011
                                • 3269

                                I'm not doing the string test anymore, that was only going to be for the hogdon for like 5 bullets, if I didn't see anything bad (pressure signs) Id shoot by hand. but im just going to load the hogdon to proper specs and see how it goes in a later test
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