C&R registration?

[Maint.man]

OK It has probably been asked and answered.

But will we have to "register" our C&R rifles etc. when/if the new laws are passed?

[microwaveguy]

AS I understand things at this moment come Jan 1,2014 you will not have to register any rifle purchased prior to that date.
BUT our politicians in Sacramento are trying to "fix" that.

[morrcarr67]

AS I understand things at this moment come Jan 1,2014 you will not have to register any rifle purchased prior to that date.
BUT our politicians in Sacramento are trying to "fix" that.

I hadn't heard about that. Do you have a bill #?

I know that AFTER 01 JAN 2014 you WILL need to register all C&R firearms you buy while OOS as well as those C&R long guns that you have shipped to your house/address.

To continue to have long guns shipped to your house/address you will also need to have a COE issued by the DOJ.

The good news; cough-gag, is that the 50 year old rule goes a way. That means things like the Yugo M59 series rifles and Albanian SKS will now be OK to have shipped to your house/address.

[microwaveguy]

I hadn't heard about that. Do you have a bill #?

Here you go SB374

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=708722

ANY rifle / pistol you have would need to be registered, or re-registered.

[morrcarr67]

Here you go SB374

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=708722

ANY rifle / pistol you have would need to be registered, or re-registered.

From the link you provided:

Defines any semiautomatic, rimfire, or centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed and the capacity to accept 10 rounds or fewer as an assault weapon.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB374&search_keywords=

SB 374, as introduced, Steinberg. Firearms: assault weapons.
Existing law regulates the sale, carrying, and control of firearms, including assault weapons, and requires assault weapons to be registered with the Department of Justice. Violation of these provisions is a crime. Existing law defines a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and other specified features and a semiautomatic weapon that has a fixed magazine with a capacity to accept 10 or more rounds as an assault weapon.
This bill would, instead, classify a semiautomatic, rimfire or centerfire rifle

I don't see the word ANY in this nor do I see anything in this that pertains to handguns.

[MrTokarev]

From the link you provided:




I don't see the word ANY in this nor do I see anything in this that pertains to handguns.

I think he just means that since all handguns in CA have to be registered anyway (by current law), with the new law, both hadguns and long guns will now need to be registered since the new one requires long gun registration.

new law + old law = both registered

[morrcarr67]

I think he just means that since all handguns in CA have to be registered anyway (by current law), with the new law, both hadguns and long guns will now need to be registered since the new one requires long gun registration.

new law + old law = both registered

I agree that he could mean that.

But, I don't understand why he's say that ALL firearms you already own are going to need to be "registered or reregesitered".

[rm1911]

I agree that he could mean that.

But, I don't understand why he's say that ALL firearms you already own are going to need to be "registered or reregesitered".

Here's what I just saw. I've looked at this several times before and this just struck me

SB 374, as introduced, Steinberg. Firearms: assault weapons.
Existing law regulates the sale, carrying, and control of firearms, including assault weapons, and requires assault weapons to be registered with the Department of Justice. Violation of these provisions is a crime. Existing law defines a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and other specified features and a semiautomatic weapon that has a fixed magazine with a capacity to accept 10 or more rounds as an assault weapon.
This bill would, instead, classify a semiautomatic, rimfire or centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept 10 rounds or fewer as an assault weapon. The bill would require a person who, between January 1, 2001, and prior to January 1, 2014, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, to register the firearm by July 1, 2014. By expanding the definition of a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.
This bill would require, on and after July 1, 2014, a Firearm Ownership Record to be submitted, as specified, to the Department of Justice for every firearm an individual owns,

The first pertains to AW's. the second doesn't seem to refer to previous AW mention. Since reg for AW is already covered. Second part simply says every firearm owned.

If I read that correctly it means ALL. Holy hell. This is going to be a f***ing bloodbath. As bad as I thought it was it might be even far worse.

There is no f***ing way. Do they seriously think they're going to get 20+ million firearms reg'd???

[NOTABIKER]

sold my evil M1A, i will not own a gun they consider a assault rifle in CA. even my evil 150 dollar savage 22 simi auto i bought to shoot with my grandsons is gone. CA is a nut house and few are pissed off.

[morrcarr67]

Here's what I just saw. I've looked at this several times before and this just struck me

SB 374, as introduced, Steinberg. Firearms: assault weapons.
Existing law regulates the sale, carrying, and control of firearms, including assault weapons, and requires assault weapons to be registered with the Department of Justice. Violation of these provisions is a crime. Existing law defines a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and other specified features and a semiautomatic weapon that has a fixed magazine with a capacity to accept 10 or more rounds as an assault weapon.
This bill would, instead, classify a semiautomatic, rimfire or centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept 10 rounds or fewer as an assault weapon. The bill would require a person who, between January 1, 2001, and prior to January 1, 2014, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, to register the firearm by July 1, 2014. By expanding the definition of a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.
This bill would require, on and after July 1, 2014, a Firearm Ownership Record to be submitted, as specified, to the Department of Justice for every firearm an individual owns, with prescribed exceptions, including firearms purchased from a licensed firearms dealer and documented by a Dealers’ Record of Sale transaction and assault weapons registered with the department. The bill would authorize the department to charge a fee of up to $19 per transaction for the submission of the Firearm Ownership Record.
The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement.
This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason.

The first pertains to AW's. the second doesn't seem to refer to previous AW mention. Since reg for AW is already covered. Second part simply says every firearm owned.

If I read that correctly it means ALL. Holy hell. This is going to be a f***ing bloodbath. As bad as I thought it was it might be even far worse.

There is no f***ing way. Do they seriously think they're going to get 20+ million firearms reg'd???

This bill is an "Assault Weapons" bill.

Read the quote again with your bold points and my color points. Notice the large purple punctuation mark. It is adding what you have in bold to what I have in color and what it means is those long guns that have a magazine lock like the "Bullet Button". There is another bill out there that would change the definition of what a "fixed magazine" is. And these two bills work hand in hand.

It is only requiring the registering of what they would now call "Assault Weapons" if this bill passes.

AB 809; the long gun registration bill, states that starting 01 JAN 2014 that all long guns must be registered from that day forward. It does not require you to register your long guns that you owned before that date.

[rm1911]

This bill is an "Assault Weapons" bill.

Read the quote again with your bold points and my color points. Notice the large purple punctuation mark. It is adding what you have in bold to what I have in color and what it means is those long guns that have a magazine lock like the "Bullet Button". There is another bill out there that would change the definition of what a "fixed magazine" is. And these two bills work hand in hand.

It is only requiring the registering of what they would now call "Assault Weapons" if this bill passes.

AB 809; the long gun registration bill, states that starting 01 JAN 2014 that all long guns must be registered from that day forward. It does not require you to register your long guns that you owned before that date.

true, it's an assault weapon bill. however, a DOJ possibly could interpret this:

and assault weapons registered with the department.

it seems that the wording separates the two, i.e. non-AW and AW. this almost implies two distinct categories: those non-AWs purchased and DROS'd and AWs. notice that the term firearm is used, not assault weapon.

perhaps it all depends on what interpretation of the law or more importantly whose interpretation of the law. but unless this is clarified, we better get on this. and fast.