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  • #31
    winetoad
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 410

    Now that is a pisser. Sorry just had to add a pun.

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    • #32
      TRAP55
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 5536

      That Polish was loaded and packed in '77. I would open that other can and check it. The longer it sits, the less there is to salvage if it's full of water too.
      Those cases are copper washed steel.
      I've shot Bulgarian light ball (two crates) in one of my Mosins, that had a 1 in 15 or so, case split or separation. Mosins do well venting gas from ruptured cases. A broken case extractor does come in handy though.

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      • #33
        DennisCA
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 4021

        Yup - It truly sucks
        IMHO - toss them, wouldn't take the chance.

        BTW - where were they stored?
        "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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        • #34
          Mssr. Eleganté
          Blue Blaze Irregular
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 10401

          I wonder if there was a broken water pipe or fire sprinkler system malfunction in the ammo factory on the day that ammo was packed. The unsealed can might have been moving down the conveyor belt toward the sealing machine when the water started coming down and then got sealed before they could shut down the machinery and shut off the water.
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          • #35
            mofojoe
            Banned
            • Dec 2012
            • 853

            I wonder if there was a broken water pipe or fire sprinkler system malfunction in the ammo factory on the day that ammo was packed. The unsealed can might have been moving down the conveyor belt toward the sealing machine when the water started coming down and then got sealed before they could shut down the machinery and shut off the water.
            What an imagination. Had a few too many huh???

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            • #36
              IntoForever
              CGSSA Associate
              • Sep 2010
              • 3891

              Originally posted by justMike
              If this was mine I would open all the bundles and put them in a tumbler with old media and see how they look afterwards. At that point you could better tell which were possibly useable and which ones likely not. Pull some examples of each type for inspection and then make a final decision of where you are with them. HTH
              I can't recommend you tumble them but I would throw a few in to see how they look under all that rust. Sucks to see that and makes me want to go check my cans for problems.
              With all this "gun control" talk, I've not heard one politician say how they plan on taking guns from criminals, just law abiding Citizens.

              Originally posted by Nose Nuggets
              5 guys, hot damn thats some good eat'n.
              Originally posted by pyromensch
              damn, i duped my own thread...first time i did a poll

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              • #37
                Mssr. Eleganté
                Blue Blaze Irregular
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 10401

                Originally posted by mofojoe
                What an imagination.
                I worked part time in a warehouse back in college and we did have a ceiling water pipe break one night. It shut down our shift for the night and they brought in a cleanup crew. But for months afterward we were still finding stuff filled with water. Guys who weren't there when it happened would grab a plastic container off the top of a storage locker and then be all, WTF!!!, when they found it full of water.

                Originally posted by mofojoe
                Had a few too many huh???
                Nope. Just starting.
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                • #38
                  mofojoe
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 853

                  I worked part time in a warehouse back in college and we did have a ceiling water pipe break one night. It shut down our shift for the night and they brought in a cleanup crew. But for months afterward we were still finding stuff filled with water. Guys who weren't there when it happened would grab a plastic container off the top of a storage locker and then be all, WTF!!!, when they found it full of water.

                  Nope. Just starting.
                  Well have a few for me

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                  • #39
                    kouye
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 937

                    If had a little rust in the other type of can, but never one of these sealed cans. Hope you're able to salvage at least some of it.

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                    • #40
                      bill_k_lopez
                      Banned
                      • May 2011
                      • 2836

                      Originally posted by TRAP55
                      DON'T TUMBLE LOADED AMMO!

                      Tumble loaded ammo all the time - not an issue

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                      • #41
                        BrokerB
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5280

                        i have tumbled THOUSANDS of live rounds. ZERO issues.

                        There is a arf.com article that goes into detail of tumbled ammo and a microscope of powder after dozens plus hours of tumbling.... no issue


                        All you would need is a maybe 4 or so hours to clean those off. At least you could see if cases are heavily corroded.

                        Looks terrible and that is sad
                        Beans and Bullets

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                        • #42
                          E Michael
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 2513

                          collectors item :-D

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                          • #43
                            mud99
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1075

                            I'll give you $10 for it...better than throwing it away

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                            • #44
                              ditchdrift
                              Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 490

                              Originally posted by DennisCA
                              Yup - It truly sucks
                              IMHO - toss them, wouldn't take the chance.

                              BTW - where were they stored?
                              They were in a back office, stored with all my other ammo.
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                              • #45
                                TRAP55
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 5536

                                Not all powders are created equal.
                                Ball powder you probably won't have an issue with.
                                Stick powders you're taking a gamble.
                                Stick powders can and will, break down in a tumbler, changing both the burn rate, and the case volume. Either one of these conditions can cause dangerous pressure spikes, combine them, and you just doubled down.
                                You can show me an arf.com article, I can show you a pair of plasma etched Bushnell shooting glasses to prove it can, and does, happen. If I hadn't been wearing them, there's no doubt I would have lost my right eye.
                                The first couple of rounds showed some obvious pressure signs, that I was too young and dumb to pay attention too. I knew they were loaded at the maximum recommended, and figured I would shoot up that box and load a little lighter. The next one went off like a bomb. No damage to the rifle, but the chamber and receiver were full of brass pieces. The rim and web were still attached to the bolt face.
                                I have no doubt, that you have tumbled thousands of rounds with no problems, so did I. Some manufacturers tumble their loaded ammo too.
                                Like I prefaced with, "Not all powders are created equal". Some stick powders it has no effect on, others it does. That can change with powder production lot numbers, that's why load data manuals are always updated. Knowing which powders can and can't be tumbled, is the big question. Trusting a combloc milsurp powder to be one that you can?....not me!
                                All I'm saying is be safe, don't risk your firearms and/or body parts on a gamble.

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