Still C&R ?

[hylander]

I am getting conflicting answers.
30-06 barrel and D&T for scope mount. All else is original.
I talked to DOJ awhile back and was told that these two things did not remove the C&R statis. Also they stated that since it is over 50years old that right there made it C&R. Now some are telling me it is not C&R

[Simply115]

Should be c&r if the receiver is original.

[Emdawg]

It is no longer C&R.

Ask the ATF: First question on the FAQ

http://http://www.atf.gov/firearms/f...#modifications

[ke6guj]

It is no longer C&R.

Ask the ATF: First question on the FAQ

http://http://www.atf.gov/firearms/f...#modifications

Umm, I'd suggest your re-read what you are refering to. Per your link, it would appear that ATF would still consider it to be C&R.

It is also the opinion of FTB, however, that a minor change such as the addition of scope mounts, non-original sights, or sling swivels would not remove a firearm from its original condition. Moreover, we have determined that replacing particular firearms parts with new parts that are made to the original design would also be acceptable-for example, replacing a cracked M1 Grand stock with a new wooden stock of the same design, but replacing the original firearm stock with a plastic stock would change its classification as a C&R item.

scope mounts are fine, and replacement of the barrel with one of the same design is ok as well.

[hylander]

It is no longer C&R.

Ask the ATF: First question on the FAQ

http://http://www.atf.gov/firearms/f...#modifications

So I just looked at the FAQ and it states that the addition of scope mounts does Not remove the firearm from C&R statis.

It is also the opinion of FTB, however, that a minor change such as the addition of scope mounts, non-original sights, or sling swivels would not remove a firearm from its original condition

[paul0660]

Caliber change same design?

[Emdawg]

The scope mounts are fine, it is the barrel that would disqualify it.

I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

[hylander]

Caliber change same design?

Several Mausers came out of the war in 30-06

[ke6guj]

The scope mounts are fine, it is the barrel that would disqualify it.

I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

do you have any proof that a caliber change makes it no longer C&R?

I know that Garands rebarreled in .308 have been sold as C&R. Boys Rifles rifles rebarreled in .50BMG so as to not be a DD have been sold as C&R.

[Kodemonkey]

A barrel is a wear item, there is no way that changes C&R status. In fact, CMP is shipping Garands with brand new criterion barrels as C&R. They are converting 30 06 to 308 and selling them as C&R too. I am pretty certain they are not doing anything illegal.

[Emdawg]

You do realize that the CMP has exemptions for its rifles and parts, right?

And the OP did nothing illegal, he just changed its status.

That used to be K98 in 8mm Mauser. He rebarreled it to a 30-06, with what appears to be a un-blued or a stainless barrel. That is not in original configuration.

I could be wrong, but better safe than sorry.

[ke6guj]

That used to be K98 in 8mm Mauser. He rebarreled it to a 30-06, with what appears to be a un-blued or a stainless barrel. That is not in original configuration.
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that can be fixed with a refinishing. that is an exterior issue that doesn't matter what size the hole in the barrel is.

[Emdawg]

Actually it is a K98 and I beleive some were rebarreled to 30-06 and .308 during the war, Correct ?

I saw that and fixed that on my post. Ones that were converted by a military arsenal or imports were done before 1968 (generally) and are considered C&R. Then again, importers have different rules than we poor prole citizens and our gunsmiths.

If the new barrel was 8mm and configured to be the right length and then blued, then that is just a "part replacement" and would be fine. The different caliber is very iffy.

[Kodemonkey]

You do realize that the CMP has exemptions for its rifles and parts, right?

And the OP did nothing illegal, he just changed its status.

That used to be K98 in 8mm Mauser. He rebarreled it to a 30-06, with what appears to be a un-blued or a stainless barrel. That is not in original configuration.

I could be wrong, but better safe than sorry.

I understand that they are exempted from some of the FFL requirements and are unique in the fact that they can ship C&R rifles direct to your home. However, they can't do that trick with rifles that are not C&R - they are still constrained to C&R requirements for shipping direct to home. Some of the 22LR stuff they sell, for example, has to go to a FFL if it is not C&R.

As I understand it, the barrel is still a wear item and should not change C&R status. The re-chambering part.. I don't know that answer to that one. But since CMP is doing it and they can still ship it direct to your house my guess would be that it is still C&R.

[hylander]

The barrel is in original Military contour with original sights.

According to this from the Federal Regs it falls in the first catagory.

Curios or relics. Firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:
(a) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;