Yugoslav Sks

[0321jarhead]

As I was taking a ____, I remembered that there are many types of Mosins. 91/30, M44, M39 etc. etc. etc.. So, are they not all Mosin-Nagants? They never made a AK-47 in wood. They made it in Russia and also in other countries. Where is wood?

[SKSer45]

As I was taking a ____, I remembered that there are many types of Mosins. 91/30, M44, M39 etc. etc. etc.. So, are they not all Mosin-Nagants? They never made a AK-47 in wood. They made it in Russia and also in other countries. Where is wood?

O I was just being stupid JAr Head, I know what that one at the bottom is Often confused as the "wooden Ak-47" because it has the AK charging handle.

[RED VASQUEZ]

As I was taking a ____, I remembered that there are many types of Mosins. 91/30, M44, M39 etc. etc. etc.. So, are they not all Mosin-Nagants? They never made a AK-47 in wood. They made it in Russia and also in other countries. Where is wood?

Inglewood!!

All joking aside though, I'll keep the fixed mag in mine and let somebody else fight in court for it. My lawyer money all went towards ammo

[SKSer45]

Inglewood!!

All joking aside though, I'll keep the fixed mag in mine and let somebody else fight in court for it. My lawyer money all went towards ammo

yup plus stripper clips are better use and less hassle than a magazine.

[Raptor3000]

Guys,

Just called Century, yugo 59 in excellent condition are $319+ $12 shipping.

Is it a good price for yugo 59, it's not 59/66.

Thanks

[SKSer45]

Guys,

Just called Century, yugo 59 in excellent condition are $319+ $12 shipping.

Is it a good price for yugo 59, it's not 59/66.

Thanks

buy it and find out then post up pics when you get it. Like I said before going to be an SKS owner it behoove of you to start doing your own research and doing trail and error. Only way to learn .

[Chach]

Guys,

Just called Century, yugo 59 in excellent condition are $319+ $12 shipping.

Is it a good price for yugo 59, it's not 59/66.

Thanks

I've always held the belief that a good price is one that leaves both the buyer & seller smiling. As such, there have been times where I've paid above market but didn't care because I felt my purchase and the joy of using said purchase was well worth the extra bit of money. There have also been times where I've bought way below FMV and get an even bigger smile though.

That said, this is a pretty nice website that tracks recent P&S amts of various firearms across auction sites. http://www.georgestragand.com/gunstockmarket/index.php Helps so that you keep that smile on your face.

[Raptor3000]

buy it and find out then post up pics when you get it. Like I said before going to be an SKS owner it behoove of you to start doing your own research and doing trail and error. Only way to learn .

I want to get opinions from people who already own yugos, I don't think trail and error is a good option for me

Thanks

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I have only shot my Yugo once as mentioned above but it runs great. I acknowledge the fact that the gas valve will someday need to be replaced. Regardless I Love it.

I am on a mission to singlehandedly deplete the world's supply of SKS rifles......

[SKSer45]

I have only shot my Yugo once as mentioned above but it runs great. I acknowledge the fact that the gas valve will someday need to be replaced. Regardless I Love it.

I am on a mission to singlehandedly deplete the world's supply of SKS rifles......

not if I can help it Bobby :P

[PEZHEAD265]

The 59 is a great gun just as good as a chinese or a ruskie and will be a collector rifle in the future.No gas valve or GL to worry about and it is CA legal.Don't wait to long or they will be gone and the next batch will be more money.

[SKSer45]

The 59 is a great gun just as good as a chinese or a ruskie and will be a collector rifle in the future.No gas valve or GL to worry about and it is CA legal.Don't wait to long or they will be gone and the next batch will be more money.

well only down side of it is that it is not chrome lined...so just have to give it a good scrub after shooting it.

[morrcarr67]

Morrcarr67, perhaps you can tell us what these are?........

OK, I will try to explain this to you.

The SKS (Samozaryadnyj Karabin Simonova = Simonov Self-loading Carbine) was designed by famous Russian arms designer Simonov, who already designed the self-loading rifle AVS-36 and an anti-tank rifle PTRS. First prototypes were built in the early 1945, and were tested in small numbers on the front against Germans. In consequent years both SKS and the cartridge were refined and in 1949 this carbine was officially adopted by the Soviet Army as an "7.62mm Samozaryadnyj Karabin Simonova obr. 1945 goda - SKS".

While it is true that other countries also adopted this design not all of them adopted the "SKS" designation for the rifles that they built in their countries. Two countries come to mind: China designated it the Type 56 Carbine and Yugoslavia designated it the M59 and when they updated it for their needs the next models where known as the M59/66 and M59/66A1.

You will never see a Simonov designed rifle that was built in Yugoslavia stamped "SKS". Thus they are not "SKS" rifles.

Furthermore Harrott v. County of Kings took the "Duck Rule" out of guns. You know: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it must be a duck. Or in this case: If it looks like an SKS, functions like an SKS it must be an SKS.

So, I'm not saying that the Yugo M59 is not a rifle built based off the Simonov design of 1945. I am saying that the Yugo M59 is not an "SKS" because the government of Yugoslavia says it's not.

The problem is that people get used to calling things by general terms that are not always correct.

Most people call a face tissue "Kleenex" even though not all face tissues are.
Most people call a magazine lock a "Bullet Button" though not all are.
Most people call a gun that looks like what JMB designed and adopted as the 1911 a 1911 though they are not.
Most people call a gun that looks like a Simonov Self-loading Carbine an "SKS" though they are not.

[PEZHEAD265]

It still is a gray area because if you look at the ID guide page 29 it says usually marked SKS on the left side.Usually means most of the time not all the time.Whth that it is up to the Doj to determine what a SKS is.I'm almost postive that other SKS don't say SKS on the gun.Does that mean they are not SKS's???

[morrcarr67]

It still is a gray area because if you look at the ID guide page 29 it says usually marked SKS on the left side.Usually means most of the time not all the time.Whth that it is up to the Doj to determine what a SKS is.I'm almost postive that other SKS don't say SKS on the gun.Does that mean they are not SKS's???

Yes. That is what Harrott v. County of Kings is all about.

That guide says: MARKINGS: SKS usually found on the left side of the receiver.
The Yugo is clearly marked M59, M59/66 or M59/66A1

The state can not say that just because it looks like a gun that is "marked" "SKS" it is an "SKS".

That is how we now have OLL's. If a gun looks like and is built exactly like a Russian "SKS" but is built in Ontario CA and marked "XYZ" then it is an "XYZ" NOT an "SKS".