is it stolen ????

[SVT-40]

Even if the rifles were transferred at a FFL dealer via PPT there is no way to know if they have been reported as stolen. Remember in California no serial number information is used in the DROS process for rifles. On the federal 4473 the serial number is listed, however at no time is the serial number run though any type of computer system to check if to see if it has at any time been reported as stolen.

[cmichini]

another friend got him all freaked out told him he was going to go to jail for shooting his unregistered rifle

The other friend is what's commonly referred to as a FUDtard. I'd consider him a troll. Rifles are not registered (exception are Registered Assault Weapons). When you DROS (dealer registration of SALE) a long gun they don't even inculde the serial number so it's the transaction that is noted.

Tell friend 1 to chill out. If he feels like the sources of the SKS's were shady he can have the PD run the S/N's to check. Then he should re-think buying guns from the back of a lowrider. Then tell friend 1's friend (FUDtardo) to STFU if he doesn't know what he's talking about.

You can be a wise***** to the FUDtard and ask him to cite the penal code section that states shooting an unregistered rifle is 1) illegal and 2) a jailable offense. I'd put money down on him not even knowing that legality is outlined in the penal code. He probably thinks it's outlined in the penile code.

[morrcarr67]

You can be a wise***** to the FUDtard and ask him to cite the penal code section that states shooting an unregistered rifle is 1) illegal and 2) a jailable offense. I'd put money down on him not even knowing that legality is outlined in the penal code. He probably thinks it's outlined in the penile code.

[novass]

Ok that is what I was looking for you never really know if a long gun is stolen unless you do something stupid and the cops run the numbers . And just cuz the guy you got it from don't look like a scumbag you never know were he got it from.I printed out the the stuff on c&r guns from doj to show the "fud" guy can't wait. thanks for the help guys

[Vacaville]

OK, I just Googled FUDtard and this guy's photo comes up under images. So I guess we all know what a FUDtard looks like now.

[BLUE&GOLD]

OK, I just Googled FUDtard and this guy's photo comes up under images. So I guess we all know what a FUDtard looks like now.

dude, good lookin' out

[Kerplow]

Primary advantages that an 03FFL has in California:

Ability to have long guns shipped to his door from out of state.
Ability to personally buy C&R guns (long and hand) out of state and bring them home.
Dealer discounts!

Other than those, a non-licensed individual can do anything an 03 can do. C&R transfers of long guns between California residents are cash and carry.

where can i learn everything i ever wanted or didn't want to know about an 03FFL?

[Cokebottle]

where can i learn everything i ever wanted or didn't want to know about an 03FFL?

Everything is in the California PC and from the BATFE.

But the best way to go is to simply ask here. If someone is wrong, someone else will correct them, and it usually gets ironed out pretty quickly by an FFL if there's any back and forth on the issue.

But for the most part, 03 laws are pretty clear and actually make sense.

[m35a2]

Or, you can try here,

http://www.hotgunz.com/

[Fate]

Running the serial number is a bad idea for several reasons. Soviet arms reused serial numbers each year. So even though he has a 1951 Russian SKS (say for example, serial number 702), it won't be reported as anything but a Russian SKS serial 702 if it were stolen. Some other PD might just list it as SKS serial 702 (even if it's a Yugo). The recording of stolen C&Rs is spotty.

So say someone had a 1952 Russian SKS serial 702 stolen...your friend could lose their rifle because of sloppy bookkeeping.

He shouldn't worry about it. He should enjoy his legally purchased rifle and move on.

[novass]

does anyone know anything about this hotguns.com?is it ok i dont know about putting any of my guns numbers in to some web sight it mite be some dam granola bastard trying to screw you

[Cokebottle]

does anyone know anything about this hotguns.com?is it ok i dont know about putting any of my guns numbers in to some web sight it mite be some dam granola bastard trying to screw you

I wouldn't do it.

If you are concerned that they may be stolen, just ask your local PD to run them through their database. What the cops see is all that matters, and I guarantee that "hotgunz" (it's spelled with a "z") doesn't have access to everything the PD has access to.
They have only about 2600 guns in their database. They only know what is reported to them.

It's worthless.... and I have a problem with "companies" that use "z" in place of "s" anyways... especially when "hot-guns.com" is available.

[C&Rtrader]

this is pure FUD... remember your friend has to give CONSENT for an officer to even run the SNs to determine if they are stolen.... assuming he isnt doing something illegal with them.

If he "thought" they might be stolen at the tiem of purchase he should have just walked away