sks not C&R???

[goback]

how come the sks is not part of the C&R. i was thinkin about picking one up at the next gun show and was looking foward to no waiting period, but now that ive heard this... ....

[zinfull]

You can buy the yugo SKS which is a C&R. Others have to 50 yrs old.

jerry

[paul0660]

They are C&R, but most are not 50 years old, which they have to be to avoid an FFL transfer in California.

Jerry is not correct.

[goback]

thanks guys i appreciate the advice

[Markus]

Yugo sks are an interesting little item because there's no real records of manufacture and it's not really stamped on there. You could buy a Russian sks though which is c&r no problem.

[sevensix2x51]

My cugir is a 1959, and c&r. 1960 and later (soon to be 1961) do not meet the 50yr mark for california. And they must be in original configuration, iirc. An old rifle in a tapco stock takes it out of c&r status, if im not mistaken... please correct me if im wrong, I wont be offended.

[paul0660]

Lots of info on 59/66's, not M59's, but the word is they were not manufactured until the early 60's.

[goback]

where do you find charts like that. this stuff is great. this is helping so much being a part of this forum. this is only my second day and i think ive learned more about this stuff than i have in the last month of googling around

[zinfull]

I mis replied to the OP question. I know that Yugo SKS are C&R but not all SKS's are. Yes you have to dros them but with the proper paperwork, COE & FFL03, then you can walk out with the gun. There are some over 50 years old that you can cash and carry.

Does any one have the web page of the updates to the C&R listing?
http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/curios/index.htm does not work.

jerry

[paul0660]

The right side of this page has links to the list:

http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/

[morrcarr67]

These are all I could find listed.

Albanian SKS semiautomatic rifles, caliber 7.62 x 39, manufactured in Albania from 1964 to 1978.
Russian (U.S.S.R.), Simonov, semiautomatic rifle, model SKS, cal. 7.62 x 39, of Soviet manufacture
Yugoslavian manufactured rifles M59 and M59/66, 7.62 x 39 mm caliber, all semiautomatic variations and having a fixed magazine, manufactured from 1947-1992

I could have sworn that the Romanian ones were listed too, but I could not find them. Also, could not find the East German model either.

[Interloper]

Chinese and Albanian SKS's are not C&R in CA. Some Romanian's are, some are not old enough. All Soviet SKS's are CA C&R.

[morrcarr67]

Chinese and Albanian SKS's are not C&R in CA. Some Romanian's are, some are not old enough. All Soviet SKS's are CA C&R.

Why would the Albanian not be C&R in California? They are list in the ATF C&R book as being C&R. That makes them C&R.

[Dr Rockso]

Why would the Albanian not be C&R in California? They are list in the ATF C&R book as being C&R. That makes them C&R.

Exactly. We really need to stop using the term "C&R in California" to mean "50+ years old". It's confusing and inaccurate. Once again:

Subdivision (d) and paragraph (1) of subdivision (f) of
Section 12072 shall not apply to the infrequent sale, loan, or
transfer of a firearm that is not a handgun, which is a curio or
relic manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date,

So the requirements for transactions without the involvement of a CA dealer are:
1. not a handgun
2. a curio and relic
3. 50 years old

[Interloper]

Albanian's are "Curios". Not "Relics". C but not R. Thus, not C&R in CA.