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  • #31
    Dr Rockso
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 3701

    Originally posted by Interloper
    Oh...you were quoting state law. Why didn't you say so?
    I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn.
    Guess I've been reading calguns long enough that whenever I read or write something of the format "120XX" I mentally insert "CA Penal Code". Mea culpa.

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    • #32
      Interloper
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 2680

      Originally posted by Dr Rockso
      Guess I've been reading calguns long enough that whenever I read or write something of the format "120XX" I mentally insert "CA Penal Code". Mea culpa.
      I still giggle every time I see the word "penal".

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      • #33
        Toyman321
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 1620

        I think seeing SKS threads with the same question so many times almost requires a sticky at this point with the entire "what it, and what is not" in CA. Not meaning to offend anyone in saying this, I just think it would be helpful.

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        • #34
          SVT_Fox
          Veteran Member
          • May 2006
          • 3206

          Originally posted by Markus
          Yugo sks are an interesting little item because there's no real records of manufacture and it's not really stamped on there. You could buy a Russian sks though which is c&r no problem.
          Yugos are infact mysteryous in dates. That's why I love my unmolested battle worn m59

          Not a fan of the 59/66
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          • #35
            Caseless
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2005
            • 1650

            Originally posted by SVT_Fox
            Yugos are infact mysteryous in dates. That's why I love my unmolested battle worn m59

            Not a fan of the 59/66
            Ah, a connoisseur. However, if you absolutely and positively need to print some 2-inch groups at 200 yards, then you need an unissued M59/66.

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            • #36
              mdouglas1980
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 871

              Originally posted by Dr Rockso
              Exactly. We really need to stop using the term "C&R in California" to mean "50+ years old". It's confusing and inaccurate. Once again:



              So the requirements for transactions without the involvement of a CA dealer are:
              1. not a handgun
              2. a curio and relic
              3. 50 years old
              ^^^^ Yes I read this too many times here on Calguns and I think this confuses a lot of people too, the proper nomenclature should be "cash and carry" for a 50 year old rifle in CA. Even though they are also C&R.
              I recently bought a Rahsheed from a fellow calgunner and it's on the Federal C&R list but is not 50 years old, luckily there was someone at the gun store we did the transfer at that understood this and that I could "cash and carry" with my 03 and my COE

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              • #37
                glennsche
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 1831

                Originally posted by morrcarr67
                These are all I could find listed.

                Albanian SKS semiautomatic rifles, caliber 7.62 x 39, manufactured in Albania from 1964 to 1978.
                Russian (U.S.S.R.), Simonov, semiautomatic rifle, model SKS, cal. 7.62 x 39, of Soviet manufacture
                Yugoslavian manufactured rifles M59 and M59/66, 7.62 x 39 mm caliber, all semiautomatic variations and having a fixed magazine, manufactured from 1947-1992

                I could have sworn that the Romanian ones were listed too, but I could not find them. Also, could not find the East German model either.
                are there any e. german SKSs on the market? Or are they all locked in a warehouse in brandenburg somewhere? i've never seen one for sale, but would absolutely LOVE to get one.

                i'd like to get an albanian one too, just so i could say i own something of albanian manufacture.
                "If the American Left wanted to decrease interest in shooting, they should have the government make it mandatory like they do here in Switzerland. Nothing makes you not want to do something like when the government makes you do it."

                "I'm over you." -Citadelgrad87

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                • #38
                  Interloper
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 2680

                  Originally posted by glennsche
                  are there any e. german SKSs on the market? Or are they all locked in a warehouse in brandenburg somewhere? i've never seen one for sale, but would absolutely LOVE to get one.

                  i'd like to get an albanian one too, just so i could say i own something of albanian manufacture.
                  There are "01" marked DDR SKS's out there. Don't expect to see one for sale at your local Big-5

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                  • #39
                    emcon5
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3347

                    Originally posted by Dr Rockso
                    Federal law requires that the gun be in original configuration to be C&R,
                    Cite the USC section that says this please.......

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                    • #40
                      dustoff31
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8209

                      Originally Posted by Dr Rockso
                      Federal law requires that the gun be in original configuration to be C&R,
                      Originally posted by emcon5
                      Cite the USC section that says this please.......
                      The USC doesn't say it. Nevertheless, BATFE says it is so.



                      "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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                      • #41
                        morrcarr67
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 15018

                        Originally posted by glennsche
                        are there any e. german SKSs on the market? Or are they all locked in a warehouse in brandenburg somewhere? i've never seen one for sale, but would absolutely LOVE to get one.

                        i'd like to get an albanian one too, just so i could say i own something of albanian manufacture.
                        Read an article about the Eat German SKS in Shotgun News a while back. They say that there aren't many in the states and when and if you find one be ready to pay a high premium. The article said that you should be ready to pay over $1500 for one.
                        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                        Originally posted by Erion929

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                        • #42
                          emcon5
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3347

                          Originally posted by dustoff31
                          The USC doesn't say it.
                          My point.

                          I know I am a bit of a broken record on this, but it is stupid, and bugs the hell out of me.

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                          • #43
                            dustoff31
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8209

                            Originally posted by emcon5
                            My point.

                            I know I am a bit of a broken record on this, but it is stupid, and bugs the hell out of me.
                            I understand. Since it is merely a BATFE ruling and not a law, I would be interested to know what the penalty for a violation is. Aside from them making one's life a living hell if they choose to. With impunity, of course.
                            "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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