Nagant Problem

[The Custard Pirate]

Which is all anecdotal evidence (see: worthless).


Mosin bolts are very easy to disassemble. No idea where the "Chinese puzzle" part comes from, since it is indeed a load of B.S.

Not directed at me, but I'll respond:



I own around 40 rifles, all of which are center-fire save for the Mossberg 151 and two M44s I have, and most of which are predominantly bolt-actions. How about yourself?

Anecdotal evidence is only worthless if you don't value experience. I presently own about 30 rifles. If you own as many as you say, your enthusiasm for Mosins is difficult to fathom.

I never said the bolt was hard to disassemble, I said it could be reassembled incorrectly; and very easily in fact.

Since I am on the subject, I might as well mention the clumsy magazine and overly complicated feed system. Only the Russians could have come up with such a goofy system, probably because they couldn't figure out any other way to get a repeater to feed rimmed cartridges. It does work altho it requires a bolt that has to be milled entirely rather than turned on a lathe. Ah well, at least I never said it was a cheap rifle. Unless you go to sell it that is.
By the way, have any of you Mosin fans found the safety yet?

[Flyin Brian]

By the way, have any of you Mosin fans found the safety yet?

If you're having that much trouble assembling the bolt and you can't find the safety, maybe you should try a different hobby?

[CEDaytonaRydr]

Which is all anecdotal evidence (see: worthless).


Mosin bolts are very easy to disassemble. No idea where the "Chinese puzzle" part comes from, since it is indeed a load of B.S.

Not directed at me, but I'll respond:



I own around 40 rifles, all of which are center-fire save for the Mossberg 151 and two M44s I have, and most of which are predominantly bolt-actions. How about yourself?

Hey Doc. I heard a quote once that applies to the situation:

"Never argue with an idiot. They simply drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

The fact that anyone would suggest that a single shot, falling block rifle has a faster firing rate than a magazine fed, bolt action rifle, with the capability to accept stripper clips is a testament to that individual's ignorance.

[Alex$]

Wow. Just wow.

Slug your bore and examine the crown. Worst case you have a wall hanger, buy another for the price.

There is a reason the design of the MN hasn't changed since 1891, (excluding length and graduation markings) it is dependable. It works every time, (unless you are less adept than a back country Russian peasant). It feeds rimmed ammo better than a lever action ever did and it is simple to build.

Why fix what isn't broke?

[Spiggy]

Anecdotal evidence is only worthless if you don't value experience. I presently own about 30 rifles. If you own as many as you say, your enthusiasm for Mosins is difficult to fathom.

I never said the bolt was hard to disassemble, I said it could be reassembled incorrectly; and very easily in fact.

Since I am on the subject, I might as well mention the clumsy magazine and overly complicated feed system. Only the Russians could have come up with such a goofy system, probably because they couldn't figure out any other way to get a repeater to feed rimmed cartridges. It does work altho it requires a bolt that has to be milled entirely rather than turned on a lathe. Ah well, at least I never said it was a cheap rifle. Unless you go to sell it that is.
By the way, have any of you Mosin fans found the safety yet?

SVT38&40, DP28, DS39... Maxim?

PK/PKM, SVD... etc etc?

[Fate]

A note from Hollywoodgrad, Russia.

Beloved Comrade,

Ve are sorry to inform you ve vill not have a spot for you in neweest game show, "Are you smarter than a Russian peasant?"

For eeven a child of 4 can properly assemble bolt for Mosin Nagant rifle. Eet ees like second nature and most basic for even peasant serfs. How you can assemble incorrectly and yet find a vay to insert eento rifle ees not only danger but sad.

Furthermore, that yew admit being unable to find safety on our most famous infantry veapon makes us vonder if you could find your vay to the studio for taping. Thus ve must decline your application. Ve suggest you try rifle game show down road, "Fail like the French!" as you seem most suited.

Regards,

Vasilly Eeen
Producer

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

A note from Hollywoodgrad, Russia.

Beloved Comrade,

Ve are sorry to inform you ve vill not have a spot for you in neweest game show, "Are you smarter than a Russian peasant?"

For eeven a child of 4 can properly assemble bolt for Mosin Nagant rifle. Eet ees like second nature and most basic for even peasant serfs. How you can assemble incorrectly and yet find a vay to insert eento rifle ees not only danger but sad.

Furthermore, that yew admit being unable to find safety on our most famous infantry veapon makes us vonder if you could find your vay to the studio for taping. Thus ve must decline your application. Ve suggest you try rifle game show down road, "Fail like the French!" as you seem most suited.

Regards,

Vasilly Eeen
Producer

LOL

[The Custard Pirate]

Hey Doc. I heard a quote once that applies to the situation:

"Never argue with an idiot. They simply drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

The fact that anyone would suggest that a single shot, falling block rifle has a faster firing rate than a magazine fed, bolt action rifle, with the capability to accept stripper clips is a testament to that individual's ignorance.

How many Ruger No.1's have you fired?

[The Custard Pirate]

LOL

Originally Posted by Fate View Post
A note from Hollywoodgrad, Russia.

Beloved Comrade,

Ve are sorry to inform you ve vill not have a spot for you in neweest game show, "Are you smarter than a Russian peasant?"

For eeven a child of 4 can properly assemble bolt for Mosin Nagant rifle. Eet ees like second nature and most basic for even peasant serfs. How you can assemble incorrectly and yet find a vay to insert eento rifle ees not only danger but sad.

Furthermore, that yew admit being unable to find safety on our most famous infantry veapon makes us vonder if you could find your vay to the studio for taping. Thus ve must decline your application. Ve suggest you try rifle game show down road, "Fail like the French!" as you seem most suited.

Regards,

Vasilly Eeen
Producer

I never said an incorrectly assembled bolt could be inserted into the rifle, I said it was easy to assemble incorrectly nor did I say that I couldn't find the safety, I asked if you could.
Because of your penchant for making simple mistakes, I certainly hope you are an academic rather than a physician. At least that way you would be limited to warping young minds rather than killing people with your mistakes.

[CEDaytonaRydr]

How many Ruger No.1's have you fired?

I own a No.3...

You can leave now.

[Fate]

You're quite the man. Go!
Arrggh! The [custard] pirate is after my booty! (See 0:08)

[FS00008]

How many Ruger No.1's have you fired?

I have a No. 1 and a No. 3. You can take your idiocy somewhere else, like the Brady Campaign, or Arfcom.

Also, you must either be missing a hand or a weakling to be limited to 10-12 rounds a minute with your Mosin. When I'm using my Finnish Brass Stripper clips I can get 15-17 aimed shots a minute out easily. And I'm not even that great with my Mosins. You have an issue with the bolt? Get a bet/swept back bolt body. Or on second thought, maybe you should have your firearms privileges revoked so that there are more firearms for those of us with brains.

[The Custard Pirate]

I own a No.3...

You can leave now.

Even with a No.3, you should be able to beat the measly 10 - 12 rnds. per minute the Mosin is capable of. Unless you are physically handicapped, spastic or incredibly clumsy that is.

[Milsurp Collector]

[Noonanda]

I never said the bolt was hard to disassemble, I said it could be reassembled incorrectly; and very easily in fact.

Since I am on the subject, I might as well mention the clumsy magazine and overly complicated feed system. Only the Russians could have come up with such a goofy system, probably because they couldn't figure out any other way to get a repeater to feed rimmed cartridges. It does work altho it requires a bolt that has to be milled entirely rather than turned on a lathe. Ah well, at least I never said it was a cheap rifle. Unless you go to sell it that is.
By the way, have any of you Mosin fans found the safety yet?

Actually the Magazine was designed by the Belgian arms manufacturers Emile and Leon Nagant. So your comment of "Only the Russians could have come up with such a goofy system" is an EPIC FAIL. And as mentioned their are many reliable Combat proven Semi-auto rifles designed around this cartridge.

If you are going to talk crap at least know what you are talking about. I own approximately 12-14 Mosin Nagants, and they are reliable and accurate weapons. I own rifles from almost all the main countries/participants of WW-2 and the Mosin is probably still my favorite, even over my Garand and my M-1 Carbine. Dont like the Mosin Nagant design, Well dont post when someone asks for advice or help with one then. Because you are not helping.