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  • CEDaytonaRydr
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 4141

    Nagant Problem

    I've got a barrel that is apparently shot out on a 91/30. It's putting keyholes on the paper at 50 yards with Russian light ball.

    I'm told you can slug the barrel, use larger diameter bullets and reload for Nagants after they do this but is there any factory or milsurp ammo I can get for these? I've got enough reloading "chores" at the moment...
  • #2
    Flyin Brian
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Oct 2009
    • 3395

    How's the crown? It may need to be counterbored, which would be a waste of time and money since you can get them for $99.
    NRA Life Member - CRPA Life Member - NRA Certified RSO - USN Veteran

    I collect Military Arms and enjoy shooting in local matches. I also collect older Lever Actions, especially those chambered in odd/old cartridges. If you have a nice old Winchester or Marlin in 25-20, 32-40, 38-55, 40-60, 45-70, etc etc, please PM me and we can work out a deal.

    Originally posted by TheExpertdouche
    I wasn't kidding when I said this would all be over by Xmas... Stay tuned for good news next week.

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    • #3
      Spiggy
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2006
      • 8688

      I see your problem!

      It's a Mosin!
      Originally posted by AJAX22
      Anti gun BS...

      Finger print recognition is one more thing that keeps your killamajig from performing its killimafunction

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      • #4
        metalhead357
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2006
        • 5546

        I'd try a re-crown. If not just buy a used barrel..... or go for broke and rebarrel to ummin' like .308

        But yep; hard to argue for major work on these critters: I've run through a few over the years and sometimes just cheaper o go get a New (used) one........
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
        I am not a number! I am a free man

        1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
        2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
        3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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        • #5
          hoozaru
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1712

          wait for the next Cash for guns event, then use that money to buy a new one

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          • #6
            CEDaytonaRydr
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 4141

            Originally posted by metalhead357
            I'd try a re-crown. If not just buy a used barrel...
            So, if the barrel slugs out to .310 or .309, I can probably get away recrowning?

            How much material will I have to take off the end for it to be adequate?

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            • #7
              metalhead357
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2006
              • 5546

              Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
              So, if the barrel slugs out to .310 or .309, I can probably get away recrowning?

              How much material will I have to take off the end for it to be adequate?

              I'm unfortunately not the mosin guy. I've had a couple or three guns recrowned over the years with ok results (at least bought a little more life out of them for a while). I'd stick around for more answers from more of the Mosin guys if I were you...... but you do have options! That much I know.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
              I am not a number! I am a free man

              1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
              2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
              3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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              • #8
                hypnoman
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 1043

                You don't have to take too much material off. Just search diy recrown sources. . . there are many. It take very little work to recrown. slugging your barrel is a quick way to find out diameter of your bore. I have several Mosins some .311 and others .313 and even .314. I have a bunch of yugoslav 180 gr rds at .311 which shoot perfect for the barrel that fits it. But beware that even in my ammo stash (I measure every rd) I found the bullets ranged from .309 to .3115. And I pulled a random 50 rds to find the powder charge ranged from 46.7 to 48.8 grains. That should explain some of those "flyers" I used to get. I would definitely slug that barrel first . . . it's quicker than a "recrown" to get at come facts. Good luck.
                Last edited by hypnoman; 04-22-2010, 11:26 AM.
                FS: ammo and primers http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...1#post10352151

                FS: Pietta .44 revolver http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=712115

                FS: Romanian PSL matching numbers parts kit http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...1#post10676211

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                • #9
                  Argonaut
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1352

                  Originally posted by hypnoman
                  You don't have to take too much material off. Just search diy recrown sources. . . there are many. It take very little work to recrown. slugging your barrel is a quick way to find out diameter of your bore. I have several Mosins some .311 and others .313 and even .314. I have a bunch of yugoslav 180 gr rds at .311 which shoot perfect for the barrel that fits it. But beware that even in my ammo stash (I measure every rd) I found the bullets ranged from .309 to .3115. And I pulled a random 50 rds to find the powder charge ranged from 46.7 to 48.8 grains. That should explain some of those "flyers" I used to get. I would definitely slug that barrel first . . . it's quicker than a "recrown" to get at come facts. Good luck.
                  I think this is good advise but it shows the difference between Russian "Quality" and German or American quality. Generally the Russian products are junk. They belong in a gun collection to show how bad they really are.

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                  • #10
                    Falstaff
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 2317

                    Throw it in the garbage and get a new one fer christ's sake!! You can get them on sale at Big 5 for 89.00! (or 3 times that in the ppt forum ) That's what so great about the mosies, they are disposable!

                    Mosins are the kleenex of the gun world!

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                    • #11
                      Noonanda
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3404

                      These last two posts really show the ignorance of some people
                      "You see in this world theres two kinds of people my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig... You Dig" Blondie from TGBU

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                      • #12
                        metalhead357
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 5546

                        Originally posted by Noonanda
                        These last two posts really show the ignorance of some people

                        I hear ya'... I hope they were said in jest....but then again- the more peeps feel these guns suck-- the longer they remain around & remain nice & cheap.

                        I jest about mini 30's and mini 14's all the time, yet own one..... mosins not much different: they suit a purpose and/or a want....if you aint got the purpose nor got the want-- you'd never understand!!!!!!!
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
                        I am not a number! I am a free man

                        1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
                        2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
                        3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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                        • #13
                          CEDaytonaRydr
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 4141

                          Originally posted by hypnoman
                          You don't have to take too much material off. Just search diy recrown sources. . . there are many. It take very little work to recrown. slugging your barrel is a quick way to find out diameter of your bore. I have several Mosins some .311 and others .313 and even .314. I have a bunch of yugoslav 180 gr rds at .311 which shoot perfect for the barrel that fits it. But beware that even in my ammo stash (I measure every rd) I found the bullets ranged from .309 to .3115. And I pulled a random 50 rds to find the powder charge ranged from 46.7 to 48.8 grains. That should explain some of those "flyers" I used to get. I would definitely slug that barrel first . . . it's quicker than a "recrown" to get at come facts. Good luck.
                          Thanks a lot. I'll slug the barrel and let you know how it goes.

                          Now, if I could just find out where someone sells .32 lead balls, I'd be set.

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                          • #14
                            Flyin Brian
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 3395

                            Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
                            Thanks a lot. I'll slug the barrel and let you know how it goes.

                            Now, if I could just find out where someone sells .32 lead balls, I'd be set.
                            Walmart, fishing dept.
                            NRA Life Member - CRPA Life Member - NRA Certified RSO - USN Veteran

                            I collect Military Arms and enjoy shooting in local matches. I also collect older Lever Actions, especially those chambered in odd/old cartridges. If you have a nice old Winchester or Marlin in 25-20, 32-40, 38-55, 40-60, 45-70, etc etc, please PM me and we can work out a deal.

                            Originally posted by TheExpertdouche
                            I wasn't kidding when I said this would all be over by Xmas... Stay tuned for good news next week.

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                            • #15
                              Interloper
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2680

                              Geeze what's up with the Mosin bashing? Does it stem from ignorance or simple penis envy?

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