Nagant Problem

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Don't pull your head out of your *** too quickly there, Pirate. It might hurt.

[CEDaytonaRydr]

Even with a No.3, you should be able to beat the measly 10 - 12 rnds. per minute...

Even with a No.3?

The Number 3 is identical in operation to the number 1. It's pretty much the same rifle. The rate of fire of the two will be identical.

You honestly have no idea what you're talking about, do you..? Do your homework before you relply on here. That way, you won't look like such a baffoon...

[paul0660]

This thread is finding out a lot more about posters than rifles.

[The Custard Pirate]

Even with a No.3?

The Number 3 is identical in operation to the number 1. It's pretty much the same rifle. The rate of fire of the two will be identical.

You honestly have no idea what you're talking about, do you..? Do your homework before you relply on here. That way, you won't look like such a baffoon...

And yet, you can't even spell buffoon correctly. Nothing you have said contradicts anything I've said: care to try logic and reason in your next post CED?

[The Custard Pirate]

Actually the Magazine was designed by the Belgian arms manufacturers Emile and Leon Nagant. So your comment of "Only the Russians could have come up with such a goofy system" is an EPIC FAIL. And as mentioned their are many reliable Combat proven Semi-auto rifles designed around this cartridge.

If you are going to talk crap at least know what you are talking about. I own approximately 12-14 Mosin Nagants, and they are reliable and accurate weapons. I own rifles from almost all the main countries/participants of WW-2 and the Mosin is probably still my favorite, even over my Garand and my M-1 Carbine. Dont like the Mosin Nagant design, Well dont post when someone asks for advice or help with one then. Because you are not helping.

So you like Mosins, so what? It's still about the clumsiest solution possible. Even Gen. Motors Corvairs and AMC Pacers have their fans. I will note that Belgium passed on the design and adopted the Mauser system.

[The Custard Pirate]

I watched your video's with great interest, Milsurp. Did you notice how many times those guys fumbled while cycling the bolt? I would think a little bit before using them as testimonials for Mosin Nagants. I was most impressed by the left handed woman shooter. I am left handed so maybe I'll try the technique some time. Did you notice the man in the last video was using two fingers to fire his rifle? A lot of Russian soldiers do the same thing. Again, not so complimentary to the Mosin.

[Alex$]

Pirate, give up, you are just making yourself look ever more foolish.

[Milsurp Collector]

I watched your video's with great interest, Milsurp. Did you notice how many times those guys fumbled while cycling the bolt? I would think a little bit before using them as testimonials for Mosin Nagants. I was most impressed by the left handed woman shooter. I am left handed so maybe I'll try the technique some time. Did you notice the man in the last video was using two fingers to fire his rifle? A lot of Russian soldiers do the same thing. Again, not so complimentary to the Mosin.

Yes, I saw the fumbling. I don't think anyone is claiming that Mosins have the smoothest bolt of all bolt action rifles, but they are capable of much higher rates of fire than the 8-10 rounds per minute claimed in that book.

The woman wasn't actually shooting left-handed, she was was just working the bolt with her left hand. I read somewhere that the Soviets also sometimes used the same technique.

EDIT- found another video with a Finn M39, no fumbles

[Alex$]

examine the crown, you are looking at the lands and grooves at the end of the barrel. Burrs, knicks, dents are what you are looking for. The lands and grooves should end consistently around the inner circumferance.

If you find something wrong, you will only need to take enough off to clean up the lands and grooves. Look at this video, very informative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorpZlG28fI

So, if the barrel slugs out to .310 or .309, I can probably get away recrowning?

How much material will I have to take off the end for it to be adequate?

[Milsurp Collector]

Remember that if the barrel has been counterbored (common with Mosins) then the new and actual crown is at the end of the counterbored area (inside the barrel). Recrowning the end of the barrel on a counterbored barrel would have no effect.

[Alex$]

Very true, but I believe he stated that it wasn't counterbored. (sorry, I can't look back through some of the assinine posts to find it)

Remember that if the barrel has been counterbored (common with Mosins) then the new and actual crown is at the end of the counterbored area (inside the barrel). Recrowning the end of the barrel on a counterbored barrel would have no effect.

[Flyin Brian]

And yet, you can't even spell buffoon correctly. Nothing you have said contradicts anything I've said: care to try logic and reason in your next post CED?

Sorry if this is off topic but the Custard Guzzler's posts have got me wondering, does this forum have an "ignore" feature?

[Milsurp Collector]

Sorry if this is off topic but the Custard Guzzler's posts have got me wondering, does this forum have an "ignore" feature?

Yes, go to your User CP and choose Edit Ignore List.

[Tacom]

I think the most interesting post in this whole topic was Custard Pirate's comment about how he hopes Dr. Peter Venkman is an academic doctor and not a medical one. Ghost Busters man!

PS
I hope you're only a Custard Pirate and not a real one. lol

[toolittletoolate]

I am going to apologize for my off topic post, but since this thread went off topic long ago I'm not too broken up about it.

First I shall address The Custard Pirate. You sir are the #1 reason I have never been a fan of Firearm forums. Those such as your self who, for lack of a better term, hijack someones thread and start to argue silly points not grounded in reality makes me sad. You sir shed a bad light on gun owners in California. Continuing to argue your points even after being proven wrong just goes to show your level of childishness. Second I feel, even though many already have, obligated to post MY experience with MY Mosins. They are some of the most reliable bolt action rifles I have EVER shot. Simple, and easy to use. Only a moron would be able to assemble a bolt with so few parts incorrectly. Yes the bolt handles are quite short but they still provide adequate leverage to actuate the bolt. And can provide an easy 12+ rounds a minute.
http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Mosin-Nagant/ - here is a link for pictures of my Mosins

Now back on subject. If this were to happen to any of my Mosins I'd just hang it on the wall and go buy a 'new' one for $90 and be done with it. Not worth the hassle in my eyes to spend the time and effort when a 'new' Mosin can be found with ease. Hope what ever you end up doing works for you CED.