STILL NEED HELP----Old Title was - Please help me identify this gun.

[xmustanguyx]

Did you get any dimpling on the bullet? Does the firing ping move at all?
I am not an expert but that's what I would look at first.

Love the Cobra by the way. 03 or 04? Is that your daily driver?

[Rogerbutthead]

I took off my comment cuz I was duplicating something someone else had posted.

After reading the comments, I thought you should take apart the bolt to see why the firing pin was not working. I posted the link that Trapp55 had already posted at 18, but I didn't notice it until I read all the comments again.

Sorry

[MAD SVT]

Did you get any dimpling on the bullet? Does the firing ping move at all?
I am not an expert but that's what I would look at first.

Love the Cobra by the way. 03 or 04? Is that your daily driver?

No dimpling, the firing pin DOES move, i can take the bolt back and manually pull the hammer(or whatever its called) back and let it fly forward.
My thought is that the firing in is too short and its not striking, or that its worn down from 3,000,000 dry fires... who knows. I tried putting a piece of scotch tape over the firing pin, on the bolt to see if it gets penetrated... but thats not a surefire test cause im sure theres some flex.

what im really concerned about is that this thing might be one of the ones they rechambered for 308 and im trying to fire 7mm mauser out of it. I really need it to be looked at by a pro at this point. I nutted up and tried firing it as is (with a welding jacket on top of the receiver between it and my face no less) and this is what i get.

The Cobra is an '03.. im the original owner... looks stock huh less than 27k on it, its my weekend car. btw satin wheels came with the 03, 04 they switched to chrome, its an easy way to tell the difference, thats the only one... just fyi

I took off my comment cuz I was duplicating something someone else had posted.

After reading the comments, I thought you should take apart the bolt to see why the firing pin was not working. I posted the link that Trapp55 had already posted at 18, but I didn't notice it until I read all the comments again.

Sorry

no prob bro.. I actually cant figure out how to take the bolt apart... my attention span is too short for this rifle (hence the 1yr mark between posts)
Do you know how to take it apart? If its simple ill just aquire another firing pin and swap it out.

[Pthfndr]

Ok so update..... I took it to the range, fired it... or lack thereof

I tried 3-4 times and it just goes click, no bang.

Anyone know a good guy to take this thing to? This isnt something i want to mess with, im still only 60% sure im even trying the correct ammo.


also, anyone know what this thing would be worth if it was functional? I can forsee a FS thread in my future.

Did you take the bolt apart? Even if you haven't, did you make sure the bolt sleeve/Shroud is screwed all the way back into the bolt body? It's a common mistake.

[MAD SVT]

Did you take the bolt apart? Even if you haven't, did you make sure the bolt sleeve/Shroud is screwed all the way back into the bolt body? It's a common mistake.

How do i see if its screwed in all the way?

[Pthfndr]

what im really concerned about is that this thing might be one of the ones they rechambered for 308 and im trying to fire 7mm mauser out of it.

If it was rechambered for .308 you wouldn't be able to close the bolt. 7mm is a lot longer cartridge.

no prob bro.. I actually cant figure out how to take the bolt apart... my attention span is too short for this rifle (hence the 1yr mark between posts)
Do you know how to take it apart? If its simple ill just aquire another firing pin and swap it out.

It's really easy and no tools are needed. Instructions with pics here: http://www.surplusrifle.com/mauser93...mbly/index.asp

[MAD SVT]

If it was rechambered for .308 you wouldn't be able to close the bolt. 7mm is a lot longer cartridge.


It's really easy and no tools are needed. Instructions with pics here: http://www.surplusrifle.com/mauser93...mbly/index.asp

Sweet.. thanks.

I removed the firing pin. it looked fine.. not sure how else to test it out without going hot

[94socalkrawler]

Pull apart a round a drop the poweder so all you have is a casing a firing cap. load it pull the trigger, atleast thats what I did when i got my mosin. good luck

[MAD SVT]

Pull apart a round a drop the poweder so all you have is a casing a firing cap. load it pull the trigger, atleast thats what I did when i got my mosin. good luck

ITS ALIVE!!!!!

woohooo that worked... my dumb dumb head didnt have the bolt screwed all the way in like the above poster had mentioned.

sweet, to the FS section it goes!

[nick]

ITS ALIVE!!!!!

woohooo that worked... my dumb dumb head didnt have the bolt screwed all the way in like the above poster had mentioned.

sweet, to the FS section it goes!

How much?

[ElvinWarrior]

I think its definately, without a doubt a Disney Munchauser...

One of the prop rifles Disney had made for the Munchkin Army for the movie "The Wizard of Oz"... This particular model, the Military Carbine model 1939-L, is especially rare and valuable. The vast majority of the Disney Munchausers were manufactured in 1939 at the Disney DreamWorks, fabrication machine shops, as was this one, however, most of the original Munchausers were serialized with an "M" Designator, not an "L" Designator, the "M" represented its role as the arm for the Munchkin Army, the "L", for those guns that were to serve a double purpose in TWO Disney productions of that year, both, the Wizard of Oz, and, serving DOUBLE DUTY as the arm used by the Liliputian Army in the Disney 1939 production of "Gullivers Travels". Both versions are exceedingly rare finds. Only three hundred million are known to exist, well, actually, only 40 were actuallly made by Disney Studios, the rest are known and identified fakes, bringing it's market value in at around $1.27 to a high of $2.34 for the model 1939-M, and a slightly higher value for the model 1939-L, comming in at around $3.05 to $5.62. I would value yours, with it's pristine stock, at around $4.87, a valuable find, Congratulations !!!

Can't be absolutely positive however, but I'm pretty sure its one of the rare originals !!!

Sincerely,

ElvinWarrior... aka... David

[MAD SVT]

I think its definately, without a doubt a Disney Munchauser...

One of the prop rifles Disney had made for the Munchkin Army for the movie "The Wizard of Oz"... This particular model, the Military Carbine model 1939-L, is especially rare and valuable. The vast majority of the Disney Munchausers were manufactured in 1939 at the Disney DreamWorks, fabrication machine shops, as was this one, however, most of the original Munchausers were serialized with an "M" Designator, not an "L" Designator, the "M" represented its role as the arm for the Munchkin Army, the "L", for those guns that were to serve a double purpose in TWO Disney productions of that year, both, the Wizard of Oz, and, serving DOUBLE DUTY as the arm used by the Liliputian Army in the Disney 1939 production of "Gullivers Travels". Both versions are exceedingly rare finds. Only three hundred million are known to exist, well, actually, only 40 were actuallly made by Disney Studios, the rest are known and identified fakes, bringing it's market value in at around $1.27 to a high of $2.34 for the model 1939-M, and a slightly higher value for the model 1939-L, comming in at around $3.05 to $5.62. I would value yours, with it's pristine stock, at around $4.87, a valuable find, Congratulations !!!

Can't be absolutely positive however, but I'm pretty sure its one of the rare originals !!!

Sincerely,

ElvinWarrior... aka... David

thanks for the additional effort, i would normally ignore a post like that but it did make me LOL, and the fact that you took the extra time to type it up, makes me feel obligated to ackowledge it.. Thanks!

Mad Svt... aka... MAD SVT

[ElvinWarrior]

Dear Mad,

It was intended to be in good humor, I in no way was deriding your rifle, or you, I'm glad it got a smile out of you !!!

Sincerely,

ElvinWarrior... aka... David

[Vladimir]

You had me going there for a while Elvin