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  • #91
    nbk992h
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 901

    Quiqueb323,

    For me, since the ATF required me (and requires all FFL applicants including 03's I believe), to send a copy of my FFL renewal application to my CLEO (which for me is the police chief where I live), which was the same policy as my initial application, I knew someone in the state already knew my 03FFL license #. I figured my application would keep getting held up until I provided it on my COE renewal application, so I provided it and my renewal application was approved very soon after I resubmitted with my FFL #. Reason why it was not right away, was because I also had to upload a copy of my current CA real ID DL (even though it was already listed on my main profile page). Once I did that, my COE was shown renewed to next year, literally the moment it was done processing the submission. I was surprised it was that fast, but I figured somehow they were able to verify everything electronically. All I know for sure is that I am glad I started the renewal process as so as I could (60 or 59 days out from expiration), so that when they needed that additional information, the slight delay after initial processing of my application, did not cause my COE to expire before the renewal was finished being processed. With everything that has gone on since last march (reduced staffing levels at CA DOJ, and no way to contact them via phone), starting early as soon as you can is always a good idea.
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    • #92
      CalifEd
      Member
      • Mar 2019
      • 210

      Originally posted by DrewN
      That's new to me, you would think they would want you to reup your actual license.
      You realize that you are talking about the California DOJ, right.

      Some would say that they want to bureaucrat themselves out of a job.

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      • #93
        Dvrjon
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2012
        • 11326

        Originally posted by Quiqueb323
        Last year Newsom put a temporary extension for Class A holders whose Medical Exam was going to expire. DOJ told me there was something going on with my Valid DL and I had to contact DMV. After playing phone tag with different DMV departments they told me their system said my DL and medical exam I had turned in showed up Valid-pending review, even though I physically had a receipt that it was processed. Fast forward today, I was not aware that they want your FFL03 number to renew your COE. I cannot find any wording that they require it now.

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        • #94
          Dvrjon
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2012
          • 11326

          OAL.

          {Note: I renewed my COE in August 2020, without providing, or being asked for, my FFL-03. With that I have no proof (and no doubt) that this is going on, so I have no standing to challenge it with OAL.}

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          • #95
            DrewN
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 1887

            Originally posted by Dvrjon
            OAL.

            {Note: I renewed my COE in August 2020, without providing, or being asked for, my FFL-03. With that I have no proof (and no doubt) that this is going on, so I have no standing to challenge it with OAL.}
            Did CFARS ask you for a bunch of unrelated info before updating your CDL? It's asking me for transaction info and firearms recorded in my name. WTF?

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            • #96
              Dvrjon
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Nov 2012
              • 11326

              Originally posted by DrewN
              Did CFARS ask you for a bunch of unrelated info before updating your CDL? It's asking me for transaction info and firearms recorded in my name. WTF?
              Nope.

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              • #97
                nbk992h
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 901

                I had included mine with my pass two renewal applications, as my previous years application requested it and this year requested it as well because my real ID driver's license needed to be renewed in the year 2020. I was thinking about doing the same thing but then I thought what if I do want to buy something which I have had my eye on such as an M1 Garand or an SKS or anything else I was interested in. If I went ahead and did that, would that hold up the process of when I sent the state the paperwork showing what I had purchased (along with the $$ fee what you must pay to have process the application). I then thought to myself it probably would and what other Hoops I would have to jump through besides uploading a copy of my real ID to my CFARS account or the C&R firearm acquisition application. Therefore I figured it was just easier to give them a copy of my real ID driver's license so that whenever in future i decided to purchase a C&R firearm, I wouldn't have any issues because they didn't have a copy of my real ID on file.

                I would also add to do whatever you think would work best for you regarding this matter, but since many of us would get a C&R license to actually acquire C&R firearms not just to buy ammunition, it would be worth uploading a copy of your real ID ID card or driver's license so they had it on file.
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                • #98
                  Quiqueb323
                  Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 151

                  Ive had my COE and FFL03 close to a decade now. The DOJ used to notify you when your COE was close to expire and send your new one in the mail. Now they dont even notify you or mail you anything. How the times have changed.

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                  • #99
                    RudyN
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2282

                    I sent in my COE renewal and they asked for my C&R FFL # so I sent it in. Now all I have to do is wait.
                    Rudy N
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                    • DrewN
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 1887

                      Originally posted by Quiqueb323
                      Ive had my COE and FFL03 close to a decade now. The DOJ used to notify you when your COE was close to expire and send your new one in the mail. Now they dont even notify you or mail you anything. How the times have changed.
                      I think up to 2-3 years ago they notified me. Not since tho.

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                      • DrewN
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1887

                        Anyway, mine renewed finally, so here's my input: Make sure all your info is up to date BEFORE YOU START YOUR RENEWAL, because once you have a pending transaction you'll need for them to send you the incomplete notice to update your stuff. I hadn't updated my CDL after it's renewal. Add all your FFL info into your profile as well, that way you don't generate another incomplete asking for it again.
                        Last edited by DrewN; 05-07-2021, 12:42 PM.

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                        • awiner
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1193

                          Last edited by awiner; 07-16-2021, 7:15 PM.

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                          • jtake
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 367

                            7/20 submitted my COE renewal. Profile all up to date with 03FF and expiration dates. Uploaded my Real ID DL as well as 03FFL document (I have them both on the same copy) at the time of renewal.

                            My application has been "In Progress" since submission. No communications from DOJ on my app requesting anything.

                            UPDATE -- as of 8/6/21 my COE renewal was completed. 19 days for DOJ to approve my renewal, and no communications from them during that process.
                            Last edited by jtake; 08-06-2021, 3:48 PM. Reason: Update

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