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  • nrakid88
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 3285

    CZ-52

    Where did they all go? when I was 18 I wanted to get one when I turned 21 but now there all like twice the price... Im 8 months away from 21 and on top of a 1911 I want to save up to pick up one of these. Should I look on the for sale forums here or should I just go bun broker.
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    5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
    Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
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  • #2
    AaronHorrocks
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1944

    The vz52 pistols are regularly on gunbroker. Price is around $200, maybe more with current political climate. Often incorrectly listed as a cz52.
    Originally posted by nick
    Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
    Originally posted by M. Sage
    I support violence against communists.

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    • #3
      Dirtbiker
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 2810

      Do you have your C&R? If so SOG has them for $150 + ship + transfer.
      To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

      Thomas Jefferson

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      • #4
        Gunaria
        Banned
        • Jan 2007
        • 3894

        bun broker, that sounds like something off of Hollywood Blvd.

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        • #5
          nrakid88
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 3285

          I don't have my C&R, i might be getting one though. If I do I have to be 21 correct?
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          5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
          Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
          You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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          • #6
            maxicon
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4661

            You might want to find one to shoot first and see if you really want it.

            Some people like them, but I find them clumsy, un-ergonomic, and ugly. Terrible sights, heavy trigger, limited ammo selection...

            Ammo's pretty cheap if you don't mind corrosive, and they're easy enough to clean.
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            • #7
              caldude
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 1253

              I really like my CZ-52. I put a Hogue GripAll on it and an extended slide release, and it's much better ergonomically. Surplus ammo for it is about as cheap as it gets. The only issue I have is that it ejects the brass about 10ft behind and to the right, usually nailing anybody standing behind the range stall next to me. Because of that, I don't shoot it as much as I'd like, but it still goes to the range about every time.

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              • #8
                AaronHorrocks
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1944

                I find them sleek, ergonomic, and sexy. Then again, I'm part Czech. Ergonomics vary from person to person.

                "Limited ammo selection" - what does that mean, exactly?
                There's commercial light load, and there's military hot loaded that's ballistically superior to almost all other handgun rounds. What more do you need?
                Originally posted by nick
                Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
                Originally posted by M. Sage
                I support violence against communists.

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                • #9
                  Justin562
                  Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 223

                  Originally posted by caldude
                  I really like my CZ-52. I put a Hogue GripAll on it and an extended slide release, and it's much better ergonomically. Surplus ammo for it is about as cheap as it gets. The only issue I have is that it ejects the brass about 10ft behind and to the right, usually nailing anybody standing behind the range stall next to me. Because of that, I don't shoot it as much as I'd like, but it still goes to the range about every time.
                  same here with the brass! I love my cz/vz52... Its just annoying with the brass ejecting in the 4 o clock position hitting people as they walk by(angeles range). Im constantly looking over my shoulder to prevent someone getting hurt or pissed off...
                  I once had one casing go down some fat chicks clevage
                  Its really fun to shoot,accurate once you get an idea where the fixed sights take you...Mine aims 5" below the target,so I aim a lil higher. surplus ammo is about 11 cents each. cant go wrong with the cz/vz52 as a first pistol... I bought mine off gun brokers or bun brokers off a guy locally, I just ask him if we could do a pptransfer and got it for $175
                  I'm not crazy...Just unemployed

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                  • #10
                    maxicon
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 4661

                    Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
                    I find them sleek, ergonomic, and sexy. Then again, I'm part Czech. Ergonomics vary from person to person.

                    "Limited ammo selection" - what does that mean, exactly?
                    There's commercial light load, and there's military hot loaded that's ballistically superior to almost all other handgun rounds. What more do you need?
                    If you compare the ammo availability to what's available for 9mm, .357, even .380, there's just not a lot of selection. If you want hollow points, you have to reload yourself, last time I checked. If you want to maximize expansion and minimize overpenetration, there aren't a lot of choices. Not everybody wants a high velocity penetrator.

                    I have a 9mm barrel for mine, which opens up the choices a lot, but those are hard to find these days, and it still has all the other issues that make it a $200 gun.

                    As others have said, it's a personal preference. Here's my standard post on the CZ-52 - I probably should have posted it in the first place instead of the short version:

                    -------

                    The CZ52 is fun, but not very practical. It's heavy, not very ergonomic, the grips are big and awkward, the sights are terrible, the trigger is poor, the ammo selection is limited, the firing pin breaks easily with dry-firing, and the firing pin block doesn't work when it's a little bit out of battery. Magazines are relatively expensive for such an inexpensive gun. Mine has a nasty trigger slap that makes my finger go numb, but not all of them do.

                    On the plus side, they're cheap, easy to disassemble and clean, you can improve the grips with a Handall slip-on. They're loud, with nice muzzle flash (depending on the ammo), milsurp ammo is cheap (but corrosive). Much of the milsurp ammo has hard primers and requires a double-strike, but they're good for clearing exercises! The firing pin problems can be fixed with a replacement, which can also improve the trigger pull at the cost of reduced safety.

                    There's also quite a bit of doubt about the tribal knowledge of how strong the actions are, as there are semi-regular reports of one blowing up. There's a fellow on the 'net who likes to test guns to destruction, and he found the CZ52 chamber failed before the brass did, which is unusual.

                    Mine's pretty much a safe queen these days, and an ugly one at that.
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                    • #11
                      Futurecollector
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 11560

                      Hmm well i see the CZ-52 on here every now and again, I have 2 lol I love them, I got 1600 rounds for 100 bucks off of a fellow CGer so ammo isnt that big of a deal. But put and add in the WTB and be patient,

                      also what is your price range that want to get one for? and I dont mean "as cheap as I can" lol
                      None of my posts are serious or real, nothing I post is legal advice.

                      Originally posted by SanDiego619
                      I am a complete idiot

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                      • #12
                        AaronHorrocks
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1944

                        Originally posted by maxicon
                        Not everybody wants a high velocity penetrator.
                        Then what are they doing looking at 7.62x25?


                        Originally posted by maxicon
                        The CZ52 is fun, but not very practical. It's heavy, not very ergonomic, the grips are big and awkward, the sights are terrible, the trigger is poor, the ammo selection is limited, the firing pin breaks easily with dry-firing, and the firing pin block doesn't work when it's a little bit out of battery. Magazines are relatively expensive for such an inexpensive gun. Mine has a nasty trigger slap that makes my finger go numb, but not all of them do.

                        On the plus side, they're cheap, easy to disassemble and clean, you can improve the grips with a Handall slip-on. They're loud, with nice muzzle flash (depending on the ammo), milsurp ammo is cheap (but corrosive). Much of the milsurp ammo has hard primers and requires a double-strike, but they're good for clearing exercises! The firing pin problems can be fixed with a replacement, which can also improve the trigger pull at the cost of reduced safety.

                        There's also quite a bit of doubt about the tribal knowledge of how strong the actions are, as there are semi-regular reports of one blowing up. There's a fellow on the 'net who likes to test guns to destruction, and he found the CZ52 chamber failed before the brass did, which is unusual.

                        Mine's pretty much a safe queen these days, and an ugly one at that.
                        This could be said about just any older military firearm. And frankly, that's all that I collect.
                        Originally posted by nick
                        Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
                        Originally posted by M. Sage
                        I support violence against communists.

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                        • #13
                          maxicon
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 4661

                          Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
                          Then what are they doing looking at 7.62x25?
                          It's certainly cheap and fun to shoot, no doubt. That's why I got mine, but it turns out it's more a curio than something I wanted to shoot regularly. Heck, there are people who carry them for CCW. Different strokes, and all that.

                          Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
                          This could be said about just any older military firearm. And frankly, that's all that I collect.
                          Yeah, I've got a Luger that's a terrible shooter too, with many of the same issues - poor sights, mediocre reliability. Ergo's better on it, at least. I much prefer the 1911, BHP, or Makarov as military shooters.

                          The point was to suggest to the OP he try one out before spending a lot of effort finding one. As I said, some people like them a lot, while others (like me) don't care much for them.

                          I'm just trying to provide feedback based on personal experience.
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                          • #14
                            Sampachi
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 812

                            Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
                            The vz52 pistols are regularly on gunbroker. Price is around $200, maybe more with current political climate. Often incorrectly listed as a cz52.
                            If we called it a Vz52, we would never be able to separate the rifle from the pistol in our Gunbroker searches!

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                            • #15
                              Futurecollector
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 11560

                              Originally posted by Sampachi
                              If we called it a Vz52, we would never be able to separate the rifle from the pistol in our Gunbroker searches!
                              +1 I really hate it when people try to call it the correct name!!! lol CZ-52 everyone know what that is lol
                              None of my posts are serious or real, nothing I post is legal advice.

                              Originally posted by SanDiego619
                              I am a complete idiot

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