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  • #46
    orangeusa
    • Jul 2009
    • 9055

    ^^^^ still trying to kill this thread.

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    • #47
      gun toting monkeyboy
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2008
      • 6820

      Meh. I don't actively collect anymore. I'll still pick up something if it fits a hole in my collection. Or it is a really good deal. But for the most part, I either have all of the toys I wanted, or they are just too expensive for me to justify. I still try to go shooting. And I reload. But am I going to run out and grab a Mauser every chance I get? No. Not really. I am more likely to pick up C&R civilian guns at this point, but they have to be interesting.

      -Mmb
      Originally posted by aplinker
      It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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      • #48
        Germ1
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 1165

        Used to think it was cool when I was younger, now I realize it as the waste of money it really is. Would rather have a modern rifle that's actually capable of being accurate. Sold my Mosin and will never own another 70+ year old bolt gun, or anything that is that old, out dated and worn out again. Ps, Savage has a model that starts out at 300 dollars and it's capable of doing sub moa, google it.

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        • #49
          Garandimal
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 2145

          I open my freezer every day... and enjoy my American Samurai swords.


          ...and shoot'em every chance I get.

          "Collecting" is for Stamps.






          GR
          Last edited by Garandimal; 11-19-2015, 5:16 PM.


          (I think, therefore I am armed.)


          -- Lt. Col. Dave Grossman --

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          • #50
            aghauler
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 4794

            Originally posted by orangeusa
            What research books? (Said the MSEE)
            I meant reference books will PM you.

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            • #51
              rdfact
              CGN Contributor
              • Nov 2012
              • 2596

              Originally posted by Germ1
              Used to think it was cool when I was younger, now I realize it as the waste of money it really is. Would rather have a modern rifle that's actually capable of being accurate. Sold my Mosin and will never own another 70+ year old bolt gun, or anything that is that old, out dated and worn out again. Ps, Savage has a model that starts out at 300 dollars and it's capable of doing sub moa, google it.
              Old doesn't have to mean worn out.
              My 1941 Swiss K-31 is still quite capable even with "surplus" ammo. I must have pulled that one shot that impacted outside the 1" square of the others.

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              • #52
                ccandgc
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 2142

                Well, that's the problem. Comparing a 70 year old Mosin to a 1 year old modern gun. IMHO there are a lot more accurate 70 year old guns than a Mosin.
                -Chad

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                • #53
                  Discogodfather
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 5516

                  Originally posted by Germ1
                  Used to think it was cool when I was younger, now I realize it as the waste of money it really is. Would rather have a modern rifle that's actually capable of being accurate. Sold my Mosin and will never own another 70+ year old bolt gun, or anything that is that old, out dated and worn out again. Ps, Savage has a model that starts out at 300 dollars and it's capable of doing sub moa, google it.
                  Your suggesting it's a waste of time and money and you should buy a Savage?

                  A Savage is a gun that in 50 years will be landfill. Hell, in 5 years it will be landfill.

                  One thing that has helped me keep ongoing interest is reloading for C&R, it's really quite easy and you can care better for the gun (reduce stress and wear) and shoot much more accurately. It takes an investment to get over the hump but not all I need is some Lee dies and I am off and running. Surplus ammo is like eating McDonald's instead of going to the store and making yourself a nice steak at home.

                  Been making 6.5 Swede, 30-06, 7mm Mauser, and .303. Getting some 7.7 Jap dies soon, Fun fun fun!
                  Originally posted by doggie
                  Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                  Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                  Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                  "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                  • #54
                    TMB 1
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 7153

                    Originally posted by Germ1
                    Used to think it was cool when I was younger, now I realize it as the waste of money it really is. Would rather have a modern rifle that's actually capable of being accurate. Sold my Mosin and will never own another 70+ year old bolt gun, or anything that is that old, out dated and worn out again. Ps, Savage has a model that starts out at 300 dollars and it's capable of doing sub moa, google it.
                    Originally posted by Discogodfather
                    Your suggesting it's a waste of time and money and you should buy a Savage?

                    A Savage is a gun that in 50 years will be landfill. Hell, in 5 years it will be landfill.

                    You're both wrong.

                    93 year old Savage. Shoots 300Sav
                    Last edited by TMB 1; 11-29-2015, 6:00 PM.
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                    • #55
                      benjamac
                      Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 377

                      Originally posted by musketjon
                      30+ years ago I worked in the LGS. It got to the point where I didn't want to go shooting or even touch a gun magazine. Playing with guns as a vocation ruined it as an avocation. Now all I want to do is sell the 91/30's taking up space that a few years ago I just had to have.
                      Jon
                      This was me and motorcycles. I started out a college kid working at a shop, keeping bikes clean, shop running smoothly... worked in the industry for years, doing just about everything, finally working for the big glamorous manufacturer! And they killed all the joy. And now I have a fancy bike that mostly just sits in the garage. I take to the racetrack now and then and am starting to have fun again- but it took years to enjoy it again, and it isn't really the same...

                      I know, boo hoo, but seriously, it's crazy how making your passion your living can really take all the passion out of it
                      Last edited by benjamac; 11-19-2015, 11:53 PM. Reason: happy little trees
                      Don't be $h!tty.

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                      • #56
                        DesertWalker
                        Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 495

                        I don't think buying a new rifle is the point. We all know you can go out and buy all the "newness" and "accuracy" you want. It is about learning about various firearms and the part they played in history. It is about the hunt for next firearm to fill that hole in your collection. It is about heading out to the desert to have shoot with your friends to see how well that old gun you worked on shoots now.

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                        • #57
                          Capybara
                          CGSSA Coordinator
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 15312

                          Originally posted by DesertWalker
                          I don't think buying a new rifle is the point. We all know you can go out and buy all the "newness" and "accuracy" you want. It is about learning about various firearms and the part they played in history. It is about the hunt for next firearm to fill that hole in your collection. It is about heading out to the desert to have shoot with your friends to see how well that old gun you worked on shoots now.
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                          This. It sounds like Germ 1 just doesn't "get" C&Rs. Nothing wrong with that, shoot and spend money on what you want, but most of us appreciate the history, craftsmanship and significance of what C&R arms represent. Modern guns are soulless, efficient and accurate but to most of us, boring, in comparison with real wood and steel guns that were designed and created by legends in firearms design and somewhat hand finished. I have a pile of ARs, a modern bolt action CZ-527 and some modern pistols. They are fun to shoot but the guns themselves are about as exciting as a vacuum cleaner or a Camry. Plastic doesn't hold tales and mysteries like wood and steel do.
                          Last edited by Capybara; 11-20-2015, 7:42 PM.
                          NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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                          • #58
                            Syntax Error
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3817

                            Originally posted by Capybara
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                            This. It sounds like Germ 1 just doesn't "get" C&Rs. Nothing wrong with that, shoot and spend money on what you want, but most of us appreciate the history, craftsmanship and significance of what C&R arms present. Modern guns are soulless, efficient and accurate but to most of us, boring, in comparison with real wood and steel guns that were designed and created by legends in firearms design and somewhat hand finished. I have a pile of ARs, a modern bolt action CZ-527 and some modern pistols. They are fun to shoot but the guns themselves are about as exciting as a vacuum cleaner or a Camry. Plastic doesn't hold tales and mysteries like wood and steel do.
                            I agree with that sentiment. Modern guns are effective and efficient, but just don't have that historical factor yet. Maybe in 25-50 years it will, but I still find it more fun to shoot my FALs than my SCAR 17.

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                            • #59
                              ccandgc
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 2142

                              I have some AR's, a Tavor and some modern pistols. They are fun and all, but the just don't have the same feeling as a milsurp. I'll never but a Glock. And I'll never one of those types and sit at a bench at the range all day with their tacticool ninja plastic rifle getting one or two ****s off every half hour. There's no soul to that for me.
                              -Chad

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                              • #60
                                RAMCHARGER
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 997

                                Originally posted by Devon
                                I woke up one day and was done. Talk about a budget buster!

                                i hear you bro!

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