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  • #31
    musketjon
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1746

    Originally posted by NOTABIKER
    Why is a M-14 considered a full auto , without special parts it is only a simi auto. the M 14 i carried in basic training in 1967 was simi auto only. It takes special parts to make a AK and a M-1 carbine full auto but you can buy them.
    crazy gov regs.
    Once a machine gun, ALWAYS a machine gun. An M2 carbine minus the M2 parts is still considered a machine gun because that's what it started its life as.
    Jon

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    • #32
      jtv3062
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2757

      Originally posted by Sailormilan2
      Springfield has trademarked their M14 style rifle as the M1A. Since it is trademarked, none of the other can use that term.
      So, most use some form of M14 to describe their gun. The Chinese use M14S, JRA uses M14F, Fulton Armory uses M14.
      So, depending on who made the receiver, he may be right.

      But to answer the OP's original question, if the rifle has a muzzle brake, or the Chinese made non slotted Fake flash suppresor, the rifle does not need a bullet button,
      Why would the other manufacturers want to call their M14 type rifles an M1A? Theirs a reason why M1A was trademarked and it may not be what you think.
      Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your Honour
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      • #33
        jtv3062
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 2757

        Originally posted by ElvenSoul
        You are correct. I've got an early receiver that Ted Brown installed a heavy Kreiger barrel on. It's got TRW trigger group, bolt, and op rod and the rest GI parts except the faux flash hider.
        Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your Honour
        Let's pray for Obama Psalm 109:8






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        • #34
          Paulie Lugnuts
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1756

          Originally posted by Enfield47
          This will be a cool build. Are you going to use the bolt you have for now or wait until you find a correct one to put it all together?
          The plan is to try and find an HRA bolt first. Otherwise we'd have to pay to have it headspaced again. There's one on Gun Brokers, but its $500.
          Because milsurp.

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          • #35
            elk hunter
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 2122

            Go over to Culver's Shooting page and see whats in the For Sale section or advertise in it for a bolt, ask what they should run. Hell for 500 bucks I would sell my spare and I think it's either a Winchester or a SA. Yep mine is a new complete SA, l think I check it on my rifle and it headspaced correct then chambered a round to check function then put it back in the wrapper. It's been a while. My spare complete trigger group is Winchester to. Good luck finding your HRA, you might be able to offer up a trade and a little to boot if needed. Just a idea is all.
            Last edited by elk hunter; 10-06-2015, 11:45 AM.

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            • #36
              beerman
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2009
              • 5037

              Originally posted by NOTABIKER
              Get a Early one, read up on the M-14 M1a forum. Early receivers had lots of hand finishing and they mostly were fitted with USGI parts. after the mid 80s most of the parts are Springfield Armory made and of lesser quality. Fit and finish on the early M1a is special.
              Their is a flow chart showing from the beginning of production until recently and what changes were made. I sold my 1983 standard M1a for 2,300 dollars in one day two years ago. I would take a early M1a over a surplus Garand personally.
              And stick with the Standard GI model,
              Sound advice..I'll never part with my 50,xxx S/A...all GI parts
              Last edited by beerman; 06-22-2018, 5:50 AM.

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              • #37
                GM4spd
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 5682

                I had one that was not properly demilled and had to turn it to ATF. Pete






                Last edited by GM4spd; 10-06-2015, 1:54 PM.

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                • #38
                  beerman
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 5037

                  WoW...just wow

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                  • #39
                    Paulie Lugnuts
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1756

                    That was one sweet looking rifle GM4spd.
                    Because milsurp.

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                    • #40
                      Paulie Lugnuts
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1756

                      Its finally done.
                      Because milsurp.

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                      • #41
                        ElvenSoul
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 17431

                        Originally posted by Paulie Lugnuts
                        Its finally done.
                        Sexy stock she is pretty!
                        sigpic

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                        • #42
                          highpower
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2012
                          • 5303

                          Originally posted by NOTABIKER
                          Get a Early one, read up on the M-14 M1a forum. Early receivers had lots of hand finishing and they mostly were fitted with USGI parts. after the mid 80s most of the parts are Springfield Armory made and of lesser quality. Fit and finish on the early M1a is special.
                          Their is a flow chart showing from the beginning of production until recently and what changes were made. I sold my 1983 standard M1a for 2,300 dollars in one day two years ago. I would take a early M1a over a surplus Garand personally.
                          And stick with the Standard GI model,
                          Actually, the M1A's with a high percentage of GI parts were made up through the early nineties. The accepted serial number range for rifles with all GI parts is from about serial number 040000 to 093000. That was when tons of USGI M14 parts were re-imported from Israel. Some the earliest Springfield M1A's have a fair amount of commercial parts do to the general unavailability of things like trigger housings.

                          I have a M1A made in 1987, serial number 040193 that is 100% GI parts with the exception of the receiver. I bought it from the original owner who had never shot it. I installed the GI stock and dummy selector.

                          Last edited by highpower; 01-16-2016, 3:42 PM.
                          MLC member.

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                          Dumocraps suck balls.

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                          • #43
                            smle-man
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10584

                            Originally posted by GM4spd
                            I had one that was not properly demilled and had to turn it to ATF. Pete






                            Was that a Kelly re-made receiver? Did they let you strip it before taking it? It was a bad, sad outcome to the whole saga.

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                            • #44
                              Anubis Laughed
                              Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 471

                              Join and then check out the classifieds in the M-14 Forum:

                              A forum community dedicated to M14 and M1A Rifle owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about optics, ammunition, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, Modern, Devine, SOCOM, EBR, classifieds, and more!


                              Great guys on there, very helpful with newbies. You should be able to locate someone with an HRA bolt fairly quickly.
                              "What a lovely but absolutely ridiculous sentiment!"

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                              • #45
                                Enfield47
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 6385

                                Originally posted by Paulie Lugnuts
                                Its finally done.
                                Nicely done!

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