M14 question

[Paulie Lugnuts]

Does an M14, built on a semiauto receiver, require a bullet button? I'd guess no since it doesn't have a pistol grip.

[dc2allday]

Do you have a flash hider or muzzle brake?

[2meterB]

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

[beerman]

With a Cali Legal Muzzle break, no button needed....with a USGI "flash suppressor (with or without bayo lug)..yes, you would need one.

[NOTABIKER]

i was unaware that you could buy a real military M-14 ever ?. If so very cool. A springfield M1a is a nice copy but not a M-14. I had a nice M1a made in 1983 with good parts and am not knocking them at all.

[Crunch130]

You can't buy GI M14's. Even without the parts (fire control group) to be fired full-auto, the BATF considers the M14 an automatic weapon.

Crunch

[Wes C Addle]

i was unaware that you could buy a real military M-14 ever ?. If so very cool. A springfield M1a is a nice copy but not a M-14. I had a nice M1a made in 1983 with good parts and am not knocking them at all.

SEI sells an civi "M-14" but it's not a true M-14 just a marketing ploy.

[Sailormilan2]

Springfield has trademarked their M14 style rifle as the M1A. Since it is trademarked, none of the other can use that term.
So, most use some form of M14 to describe their gun. The Chinese use M14S, JRA uses M14F, Fulton Armory uses M14.
So, depending on who made the receiver, he may be right.

But to answer the OP's original question, if the rifle has a muzzle brake, or the Chinese made non slotted Fake flash suppresor, the rifle does not need a bullet button,

[NOTABIKER]

Why is a M-14 considered a full auto , without special parts it is only a simi auto. the M 14 i carried in basic training in 1967 was simi auto only. It takes special parts to make a AK and a M-1 carbine full auto but you can buy them.
crazy gov regs.

[phungn]

They had the lug in the rear for the full auto part. Once a machine gun always a machine gun so even if you cut off that lug it's still illegal.

There are a few other rifles that were semi auto that are considered machine guns. I believe the M2 carbine is a machine gun no matter what.

The L1A1 I believe is considered a machine gun too despite having never been anything but semi. Got lumped in with all the other FALs.

[Paulie Lugnuts]

I purchased a kit off Gun Brokers. All the parts, minus the receiver, should be here Monday. LRB makes a semi auto receiver and has a build service. Apparently headspacing an M14 is complicated.
Looks like a I just need to find a California legal muzzle brake and I'm GTG.
I don't know if there are any full auto M14s in private hands. They wouldn't be legal here in the People's Republic anyway.

[Grendl]

I wasn't sure about this post, Phungn -
So I did some searching - you're on the money!

Thanks for making me do some research.

So the folks claiming to have transferable C&R L1A1s in Kalifornia are full of baloney?

That means I can give up my quest for a C&R FAL :-(

[Paulie Lugnuts]

So the folks claiming to have transferable C&R L1A1s in Kalifornia are full of baloney?

That means I can give up my quest for a C&R FAL :-(

My understanding is you can't own or transfer any full auto gun in California.
You can build a semi auto L1A1 from a kit. I built this one a few years ago.

[TRAP55]

I don't know if there are any full auto M14s in private hands. They wouldn't be legal here in the People's Republic anyway.

Can't say about now, but back in the early 70's a friends dad had one. First F/A I ever fired. Aim straight and level, and about the 4th or 5th round, it becomes an anti aircraft gun.
A good friend and officer in the NightStalkers was having a beer with a friend in supply, shortly before his second deployment to Iraq. He mentioned he had two crates of unissued M-14's that Jerry could take with him. A bunch of us on the Mauser Central forums donated mounts, rings, and Bushnell scopes. They were, and I hope still are, used very effectively as a squad support weapon......56 years after the Army put them in service!

[Paulie Lugnuts]

You know all the cool people Trap!