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  • Ron Swanson
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 311

    What are your thoughts on Zeroing your Red Dot at 10-yards

    My AR-15 was built with personal defense in mind. However, it is not my primary go-to firearm for home protection. I recently zeroed my irons and optics (lower third) at 25-yards.

    I have a friend who goes about it in slightly different way. He zeros his irons at 25-yards and zeros his Red Dot at 10-yards for home protection. It kinda makes sense to me to have your Red Dot setup for close quarters use. He still has his irons zeroed at 25-yards for anything that would require a longer distance shot.

    So I'd like to get some feedback from others about the pros and cons to this method.
  • #2
    Varg Vikernes
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2831

    If you are shooting something within 10 yards don't you just point the muzzle in their direction?

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    • #3
      jay_cue
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1236

      I zero'd my red dot for 25 yards. I've shot it 7-10 yards and if I remember correctly, would only shoot 2-3 inches off point of aim. I think in a self defense scenario, this would be negligible and would be sufficient and acceptable for me.

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      • #4
        sunborder
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1212

        Ar sight height is 2.6" above bore centerline. With 50 yard zero, you are also zeroed @ 200yards, more or less. That makes max pbr something like 250-300 yards depending on load (you are +/- 2.6" from poa). That's good enough for combat. Or you can zero @100, and it will always be a bit low.

        Zeroing @ 10 yards is ridiculous unless you are shooting 1/4" bullseyes @ a fixed 10 yard range.

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        • #5
          Cuda440
          CGN Contributor
          • Sep 2010
          • 3289

          25/225 battle zero

          Zero at 25 yards. At point blank, the round will be 2.6" low like sunborder mentioned. At 25 yds it will be poa/poi. around 100-150yds the projectile will peak about 3" above poa and start the downward curve. at 225yds, the poa/poi will cross again. by 300 yds, you will be about 4" below poa.

          cliff notes- zero at 25 and you will hit center mass anywhere within 3 feet to 300 yards.
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          • #6
            russ69
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2009
            • 9348

            Originally posted by Varg Vikernes
            If you are shooting something within 10 yards don't you just point the muzzle in their direction?
            Just aim down a rib, no sights required.
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            • #7
              UBFRAGD
              Banned
              • Aug 2007
              • 2701

              My version is to zero at 100 like always, it's the rifleman in me. Shooting at close quarters is easy. For every rifle, I know the distance from center of bore to the reticle. So in the confines of home, I just aim that much higher. Sometimes the range near me allows "sighting in" AR's on the pistol line. I like setting up a torso on the 10 to simulate HD.

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              • #8
                HKRick
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 720

                Originally posted by Cuda440
                25/225 battle zero

                Zero at 25 yards. At point blank, the round will be 2.6" low like sunborder mentioned. At 25 yds it will be poa/poi. around 100-150yds the projectile will peak about 3" above poa and start the downward curve. at 225yds, the poa/poi will cross again. by 300 yds, you will be about 4" below poa.

                cliff notes- zero at 25 and you will hit center mass anywhere within 3 feet to 300 yards.
                +1 Best option in my opinion.

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                • #9
                  hermosabeach
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19110

                  In the home is EMT- eyes muzzle target

                  A quick flash sight picture or from low ready, start shooting at the pelvis or thighs and work your way up and they come down.
                  Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                  Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                  Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                  Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                  (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                  • #10
                    Junkie
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 4848

                    10 yards seems awfully close. I'd rather have a 25 or 50 yard zero (I personally use 50), in a home defense scenario hitting a couple inches low (at most) is unlikely to matter. If you're zerod at 10 and have to shoot at 50 you'll be a lot farther off (I'll make a wild guess of 9").
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                    • #11
                      khw9mm
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 1072

                      Mine is zero'd at 50 although Cuda does make a good argument to go at 25...

                      At 10, just point and make it go boom.


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                      • #12
                        safety-1st
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1300

                        At 10 yards you point and spray lol!

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                        • #13
                          Ron Swanson
                          Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 311

                          Thanks guys, I appreciate your Input. I'll keep my sights zeroed at 25.

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                          • #14
                            pterrell
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 3576

                            I zero at 100 yards. Anything below that, if I can't hit the target I shouldn't have a gun.
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                            • #15
                              teflondog
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 4010

                              My home defense AR has a 50 yard zero with an Eotech. At 7 yards, the bottom tip of the Eotech reticle is where POI is. For CQB, nothing beats an Eotech IMO.
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