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  • #16
    sunborder
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1212

    My version is to zero at 100 like always, it's the rifleman in me. Shooting at close quarters is easy. For every rifle, I know the distance from center of bore to the reticle. So in the confines of home, I just aim that much higher. Sometimes the range near me allows "sighting in" AR's on the pistol line. I like setting up a torso on the 10 to simulate HD.
    I zero at 100 yards. Anything below that, if I can't hit the target I shouldn't have a gun.
    Sigh. One of the main reasons that the sights on the AR-15 (like many other battle rifles) are so high above bore is to enable a sighting technique known as a "battlesight zero." That means that out to 300 yards or so, you will be within 3" of elevation of your point of aim. Figure in another +/- 1" of inherent accuracy in the weapon, and you are within 4 inches. That's good enough for combat. A "rifleman" (as in you score expert during qualification) would know that iron sights are not MEANT to be zeroed at 100 yards on a military rifle, and would be familiar with a battlesight zero. Most of the military field manuals that deal with the M4/M16 family of weapons explain this perfectly well.

    Depending on barrel length (and thus sight radius) and ammunition, it may be more like a 25m/300m zero, but the principle holds.

    A 100 yard zero basically means that you will ALWAYS shoot low, except at the exact zeroing distance, barring a steep up or downward angled shot. Some may prefer this method, but it's hardly the method of a "rifleman."

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    • #17
      TKM
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      • Jul 2002
      • 10657

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      • #18
        peter95
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 2488

        You can zero at 10 yards if you want, but remember that you won't know the error margin when shooting 100 + yards.

        At 10 yards your grouping may be touching but I guarantee you that over 100 yards you may not even hit your target.

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        • #19
          pterrell
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Aug 2013
          • 3576

          Originally posted by sunborder
          Sigh. One of the main reasons that the sights on the AR-15 (like many other battle rifles) are so high above bore is to enable a sighting technique known as a "battlesight zero." That means that out to 300 yards or so, you will be within 3" of elevation of your point of aim. Figure in another +/- 1" of inherent accuracy in the weapon, and you are within 4 inches. That's good enough for combat. A "rifleman" (as in you score expert during qualification) would know that iron sights are not MEANT to be zeroed at 100 yards on a military rifle, and would be familiar with a battlesight zero. Most of the military field manuals that deal with the M4/M16 family of weapons explain this perfectly well.

          Depending on barrel length (and thus sight radius) and ammunition, it may be more like a 25m/300m zero, but the principle holds.

          A 100 yard zero basically means that you will ALWAYS shoot low, except at the exact zeroing distance, barring a steep up or downward angled shot. Some may prefer this method, but it's hardly the method of a "rifleman."
          I never said I zero my iron sights to 100 yards

          I actually have an ACOG on my primary rifle and it is zeroed to 100 (nature of it's design)

          My fixed irons rifle back in Washington (apparently it's too scary here) is zeroed to 36 yards.

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          • #20
            SuperSet
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2007
            • 9048

            Saw your thread on ARFCOM, where the SWAT dude said his team zeroed for 10 yards.

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