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  • jcaoloveshine
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 2654

    Shooting MOA or better...what's the secret?

    So what do you guys do to shoot really accurately? Having started shooting higher power this summer, I find that if I focus well and slowly squeeze but dont quickly jerk the trigger things seem to go alright. What are the other aspects to accurate shooting technique? I've already got the rifle nice and tight against my shoulder and I've adjusted trigger pull so it's nice and crisp, it's just that I seem to still fear recoil.
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    M. Sage
    Moderator Emeritus
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2006
    • 19759

    Ignore the recoil, ignore the upcoming results of firing. Concentrate on your stance/posture/position, breathing, sight picture, and trigger. Block everything else from your head.

    At least... that's what I do when I'm actually shooting well.

    I'm not sure if High Power is the best way to learn to shoot well. It seems to rely on gear too much, IMO.
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    • #3
      Mute
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 8450

      Good marksmanship skills isn't a secret, it just plain takes alot of practice to execute properly and consistently. Remember to work on your breathing and follow-through. These two things, along with trigger control are your keys to good marksmanship. I suggest plenty of dry-firing practice. Also work with someone whom you know is a good marksman and ask them to help diagnose your shooting.

      In the meantime, read through this link on snipershide regarding the fundamentals of marksmanship. Good luck.
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      • #4
        AngelDecoys
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 2393

        There's certainly a lot of sources you can go online to find information. CMP, David Tubb's site, accurate shooter.

        I've taken to practicing more. Of course practice is only so good as long as you're reinforcing good technique and discarding bad habits (or correcting before they are ingrained). Mostly, these days I've been practicing both live (1 session/week), and dry practice (standing) at a taped up mini target in my garage (2x/week).

        From another thread.
        Originally posted by ocabj
        Also, if you haven't read any of the USAMU articles on the CMP website, do so:



        All those articles have great advice.

        Some of my favorite articles there:

        Standing and Trigger Control
        Straight to the Rear
        "Don't be that guy"
        Manteca Sportsmen General website.
        MS 2012 General Schedule thread look here.
        Women's Classes at the Manteca Sportsmen (2012 Schedule posted)
        Indoor Winter Rimfire Shoot. Information here

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        • #5
          Timberwolf
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2004
          • 6275

          Learn the fundamentals, take a class or two and practice live fire and dry fire. Use quality equipment and ammo and it will come. The main thing is learning the fundamentals though for like building a house no matter how good your materials without a good firm foundation it will eventually crumble.
          I'm only smiling at you while you talk to me because it's hilarious that you really think I give a crap about you.

          As I've gotten older I thought I was gaining patience, then I realized I simply don't give a crap.

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          • #6
            Casual Observer
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 1400

            Originally posted by Timberwolf
            Learn the fundamentals, take a class or two and practice live fire and dry fire. Use quality equipment and ammo and it will come. The main thing is learning the fundamentals though for like building a house no matter how good your materials without a good firm foundation it will eventually crumble.
            Practice, practice, practice.

            I once had a buddy shoot 1000yds with a 20" Howa .308 with a Nikko scope on it and hit a 3" group. How'd he get so good? He was the division sniper instructor at Camp Pendleton for years and now is with an Army unit out of Bragg. He said "If you shoot 200 rounds a day for years, you can get pretty good."

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            • #7
              jcaoloveshine
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 2654

              I've found that my biggest obstacle is my fear of recoil. Granted .270 Winchester isn't a huge round, it shakes up my shoulder pretty well and it's hard not to anticipate it.
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              • #8
                Timberwolf
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2004
                • 6275

                Originally posted by jcaoloveshine
                I've found that my biggest obstacle is my fear of recoil. Granted .270 Winchester isn't a huge round, it shakes up my shoulder pretty well and it's hard not to anticipate it.
                Assuming a proper position will cure a lot of your recoil problems. I regularly help zero customers scopes on their rifles at the range where I work. I get everything from 22LR to 338s and above. The key is proper position behind the rifle.
                I'm only smiling at you while you talk to me because it's hilarious that you really think I give a crap about you.

                As I've gotten older I thought I was gaining patience, then I realized I simply don't give a crap.

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                • #9
                  NRAhighpowershooter
                  Super Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6485

                  as one of the above posters have said.. practice... practice.. practice....Dry firing as well as actual shooting..... take your time while shooting.. don't be distracted by other shooters.. as some of us HP shooters kid each other... be one with the target.. BE the target (ok a slight offshoot of Caddychack ) also what you eat and drink before you shoot can affect how you shoot as well.......also.. some people are natural shooters plain and simple.. and some really have to work at it....one thing to remember.. don't get discouraged!!!! even the best shooters have really cra**y days and tank matches....
                  'Just Don't Point, Squint, and Laugh! '

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                  • #10
                    Pthfndr
                    In Memoriam
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3691

                    Originally posted by M. Sage
                    I'm not sure if High Power is the best way to learn to shoot well. It seems to rely on gear too much, IMO.
                    It relies on a rifle, ammo, and shooter. Nothing more.
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                    • #11
                      Ahhnother8
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1454

                      I'm not sure if High Power is the best way to learn to shoot well. It seems to rely on gear too much, IMO.
                      High power is a GREAT way to learn to shoot well. Lots of shooting and lots of knowledgeable people willing to help. And the gear is primarily for comfort - coat and glove.

                      Shooting well takes:

                      good gun AND sights
                      good ammo
                      good shooter - learn the fundamentals (5) and everything else is easy.

                      Lane

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                      • #12
                        jcaoloveshine
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2654

                        How important is it that the rifle is very tight against the shoulder?
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                        • #13
                          workinwifdakids

                          Right now, I'm working on gross muscle tension. Often, just before a shot, at the bench, I find my leg muscles are so rigid I'm shaking. I have to tell myself to put my feet on the ground and relax my leg muscles.

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                          • #14
                            CRTguns
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2627

                            What most people wil not teel you here is the TRUTH.

                            Good shooters are BORN.

                            If you're not a good shooter, face facts and pick another hobby.

                            Or get a Belt fed weapon.

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                            • #15
                              workinwifdakids

                              If you're not a good shooter, face facts and pick another hobby.
                              Just because you're not Tiger Woods doesn't mean you can't make par on every hole. Let's not discourage each other from being better riflemen.

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