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  • #31
    dandan3000
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 178

    Originally posted by BigPimping
    About the same as an AK.
    Exactly , i just boil up a kettle full of water and pour it down gas tube/barrel , and put disassembled bcg in a bowl + boiling water. Followed by dry patches, then oiled. Dry off and oil every thing else. May need to do the buffer tube/fcg too. No changes so far with the FCG.

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    • #32
      w210838
      Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 499

      I just pee on mine.

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      • #33
        JDay
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 19393

        Is it really that hard to just buy the non-corrosive stuff? Yes it costs a little more but the peace of mind is worth it. And an added bonus is that you do not need to detail clean your rifle after every range trip.

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        • #34
          Elwood_Blues
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 2394

          Originally posted by JDay
          Is it really that hard to just buy the non-corrosive stuff? Yes it costs a little more but the peace of mind is worth it. And an added bonus is that you do not need to detail clean your rifle after every range trip.

          http://www.sgammo.com/product/golden...w-production-a
          Well, it's $0.10 per round more than surplus and it's oos. So for me, a little boiling water and an extra cleaning step is the way to go. Especially when I have ~3700 of surplus
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          • #35
            Letterman52
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 1345

            Originally posted by dandan3000
            Exactly , i just boil up a kettle full of water and pour it down gas tube/barrel , and put disassembled bcg in a bowl + boiling water. Followed by dry patches, then oiled. Dry off and oil every thing else. May need to do the buffer tube/fcg too. No changes so far with the FCG.
            Exactly what I do. I usually spray everything down with windex before. Not sure if it actually does anything, but it is kind of a ritual.

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            • #36
              Junkie
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 4848

              Originally posted by JDay
              Is it really that hard to just buy the non-corrosive stuff? Yes it costs a little more but the peace of mind is worth it. And an added bonus is that you do not need to detail clean your rifle after every range trip.

              http://www.sgammo.com/product/golden...w-production-a
              One of the reasons people go for 5.45x39 is that it's so cheap, even if it's corrosive.
              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
              A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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              • #37
                BruinGuy
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1456

                It really is just a few extra steps of cleaning. No reason to soak the entire rifle. Hot or boiling water through the bore and on parts exposed to the gases, followed by normal cleaning, as has already been suggested by many here.

                One thing to watch out for is the flash hider or muzzle break. I managed to freeze my mb onto my AK years ago, I think because a little water got under the threads. It doesn't take much corrosion to make those suckers a real challenge to break free. I learned to take it off when cleaning. Harder to do with an AR, so after cleaning some blasts of compressed air and some WD40 are a good idea to make sure you clear that out. In fact, compressed air and WD40 are good steps to take after the water, prior to the normal cleaning, just to get any little remaining water out of nooks and crannies. I put a thin coat of grease on the threads now, too. If you do get it frozen, Kroil is a huge help.
                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                Keep in mind that you don't have a clue.

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                • #38
                  Elwood_Blues
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2394

                  Originally posted by BruinGuy
                  One thing to watch out for is the flash hider or muzzle break. I managed to freeze my mb onto my AK years ago, I think because a little water got under the threads. It doesn't take much corrosion to make those suckers a real challenge to break free. I learned to take it off when cleaning. Harder to do with an AR, so after cleaning some blasts of compressed air and some WD40 are a good idea to make sure you clear that out.

                  So in case of AR, few drops of KROIL on the flash hider should do the trick.
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                  • #39
                    w210838
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 499

                    For real I use sweets 7.62 it's made for cleaning corrosive ammo , it's strong so be ware if you have a painted surface it will remove it!

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                    • #40
                      captbilly
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 836

                      Why the heck would anyone shoot corrosive ammo?

                      Ammo is to a gun as tires are to a car. Crappy ammo is simply doesn't make sense, and corrosive ammo is universally crap. It's not that the corrosive primers make the ammo bad, it's just that nobody makes good corrosive primer ammo. You can save a few cents a round buying corrosive and/or steel case ammo, but there is no way for you to get a great shooting rifle with that ammo.

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                      • #41
                        pc_load_letter
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2520

                        Originally posted by w210838
                        I just pee on mine.
                        +1 Yup!

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                        • #42
                          pc_load_letter
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 2520

                          Originally posted by captbilly
                          Ammo is to a gun as tires are to a car. Crappy ammo is simply doesn't make sense, and corrosive ammo is universally crap. It's not that the corrosive primers make the ammo bad, it's just that nobody makes good corrosive primer ammo. You can save a few cents a round buying corrosive and/or steel case ammo, but there is no way for you to get a great shooting rifle with that ammo.
                          Are you kidding me? I get 2 inch groups with my surplus ammo in my 5.45 AK all day.

                          I shoot because I enjoy it. And if I can shoot cheaper, that's even better.

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                          • #43
                            Standard
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3657

                            Originally posted by pc_load_letter
                            Are you kidding me? I get 2 inch groups with my surplus ammo in my 5.45 AK all day.

                            I shoot because I enjoy it. And if I can shoot cheaper, that's even better.
                            Agreed on both counts.
                            And your username always makes me chuckle

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                            • #44
                              BruinGuy
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1456

                              Originally posted by captbilly
                              Ammo is to a gun as tires are to a car. Crappy ammo is simply doesn't make sense, and corrosive ammo is universally crap. It's not that the corrosive primers make the ammo bad, it's just that nobody makes good corrosive primer ammo. You can save a few cents a round buying corrosive and/or steel case ammo, but there is no way for you to get a great shooting rifle with that ammo.
                              Spoken from a position of complete and utter ignorance!

                              Excellent ammo including match quality has been made with corrosive primers and steel cases...sometimes both and in many, many different cartridges.

                              There is no 5.45 that is not steel cased. The milsurp ammo is as good or better than current production commercial ammo. I will venture a guess that you have zero experience with this cartridge.

                              Also, your analogy to tires on a car doesn't make any sense.
                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              Keep in mind that you don't have a clue.

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                              • #45
                                Socalman
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1339

                                Corrosive ammo is nothing to be concerned about. Simply wash with water. Some people suggest Windex, others talk about using dish detergent. Others say just plain old water. The key, I believe is to do it soon after firing. You don't have to clean within minutes, but a few hours and you are good to go.

                                BTW, I think the MilSurp corrosive ammo is a bit hotter AND more accurate than the typical Wolf, Tula, etc. Just my $.02. That and another $1.98 will get you a cup of coffee.

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