Anyone have experience with Eotech's?

[timbo399]

so many options these days. It's hard enough deciding what next rifle you want to buy, with all these new red dot sight options, etc, it makes it so I spend more time thinking about firearm/accessories purchases than I do my job! Was always brought up on irons and still love idea of keeping it simple, but reality is my eyes are getting worse every year. Love my EXPS Eotech, have never tried an Aimpoint but certainly understand their advantages, I'm sure I'll end up getting an Aimpoint Pro soon. I still think the ultimate AR optic is the Trijicon Accupoint TR24 (the 1-4x scope). Weighs like 14 oz and the 1x setting is truly 1x, like looking through a window, and no batteries needed! I have the TR24G w the green triangle reticle and can use that green triangle for quick target acquisition at 1x or crank up to 4x to stretch it out. And just as all TRijicon products, they are built like a tank. Price around $850 I believe, add another $60 for a Burris PEPR mount. If I only had 1 AR, that's what I would keep on it.

[jkonquer]

Keep in mind that eotechs are very heavy. i have the exps2 and even with compact construction, its fairly heavy. Which also makes the rifle top heavy.

I would check the reticles before making the purchase since eotech reticles are grainy due to holographic tech. and not a solid dot like aimpoint or othere sights. It doesnt bother me but it does take time getting used to.

Battery life is borrible compared to aimpoint. It says it lasts 600 hours, but most likely around 200 hours at the most constantly on at middle level.

If you get exps2 model, the buttons on are the side with a indentation. Which mades very difficult to turn on, change brightness, and turn off. Almost impossible with gloves. I found the aimpoint to be much easier since its a knob. But other models have the buttons on the back which makes it much easier for access it.

The quick release on exps2 are very sturdy and always stay on zero. But will not cowitness. Screw on will cowitness.

Over all im very happy with. I just dont like how heavy it is. I would consider aimport micro for weight saving

[teflondog]

Keep in mind that eotechs are very heavy. i have the exps2 and even with compact construction, its fairly heavy. Which also makes the rifle top heavy.
I would check the reticles before making the purchase since eotech reticles are grainy due to holographic tech. and not a solid dot like aimpoint or othere sights. It doesnt bother me but it does take time getting used to.

Battery life is borrible compared to aimpoint. It says it lasts 600 hours, but most likely around 200 hours at the most constantly on at middle level.

If you get exps2 model, the buttons on are the side with a indentation. Which mades very difficult to turn on, change brightness, and turn off. Almost impossible with gloves. I found the aimpoint to be much easier since its a knob. But other models have the buttons on the back which makes it much easier for access it.

The quick release on exps2 are very sturdy and always stay on zero. But will not cowitness. Screw on will cowitness.
Over all im very happy with. I just dont like how heavy it is. I would consider aimport micro for weight saving

I weighed my optics (with mounts) and here's what I got.

EXPS 2-0 (Eotech QD mount): 11.5 oz
Micro T-1 (Larue QD): 6.2 oz
PRO (QRP mount): 12 oz
Comp M4 (QRP mount): 13 oz

The EXPS is heavy compared to a Micro T-1 but it's equal or even lighter than the other Aimpoint optics.

As for Eotech mounts, the EXPS is 1/3 lower cowitness with the QD mount. The XPS is absolute cowitness.

[Maddog5150]

Hey Fellas, I'm looking for an optic for my Colt LE6920. Its my first AR so I'm kinda a noob. Just looking for something to punch holes in some paper and look cool, haha.

How's this sight?

http://www.amazon.com/EOTech-512-A65-Tactical-HOLOgraphic-Batteries/dp/B000KKFVRC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Would anyone be scared ordering it online from Amazon? I would hate to get a clone or something.

Thanks in advance!

Horrible! You should go with the xps 3-0... Like the one in my Sig

For 100$ more you could get the eotech exps2, which is arguably an improvement on the legacy eotech line. It has a single transverse mounted cr123 battery so it eliminates recoil induced battery contact interruption, has side mounted control buttons which allows for easier magnifier use, takes up less rail space, and includes a quick release mount that puts the optic at a lower 1/3rd cowitness with standard AR height sights.

If you decide to opt for an aimpoint, check out the aimpoint pro. It can be had for 380-420 and is ready to go out of the box with mount, battery, & flip caps also.

Just some options for you to look at. The eotech website has a breakdown if all the various models.


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Or 125 more for an xps 3

Cough* see Sig

[Zerorye351w]

I have the Aimpoint Pro and EOTech EXPS 2-0. Between the two, I prefer the EOTech, based on field of view and reticle size/useability. The Aimpoint is more like looking into a scope (long tube). I like the Aimpoint for it's battery life. I can leave it on for 3yrs, so no extra effort to turn it on. The 2-0 reticle of the EOTech is easy to pick up and use.
Also, an ACOG is an excellent scope. A little expensive for paper punching, but excellent optical quality with some magnification. The tritium/fiber ACOGs last around 10 years and the red chevron reticle is very easy to use. Only downside is the eye relief.
For paper punching I would go with the EOTech EXPS line.

[someR1]

used my buddies spx eotech....it was awesome

[evidens83]

Keep in mind that eotechs are very heavy. i have the exps2 and even with compact construction, its fairly heavy. Which also makes the rifle top heavy.

Over all im very happy with. I just dont like how heavy it is. I would consider aimport micro for weight saving

Do you even lift bro FWIW I've owned a 512. Absolutely loved it. Excellent FOV and AA batteries is a plus. I'm not tactical enough to leave it on for 3+ years anyways so this whole AP battery life is king is moot.

[someR1]

Do you even lift bro .

LOL

[jasonnorcal]

I had an Eotech 512. It was great, but I sold it for a Aimpoint.

[TheExiled]

I love mine and would get more if I could afford it. I dont think the 512 is heavy at all, however the magnifier and flip-to-side mount is very heavy

[G21Shooter]

It's kind of amusing when people complain about the battery life of the Eotech, especially since the OP says he's planning to use it to punch paper. 600 hours is a lot of range time, even if you shoot every day. A battery would easily last a couple of years like that. Just turn the Eotech off when you're not using it, it can take it. The Aimpoints I own on the other hand, seem to have pretty tempermental rheostats, when it comes to turning them on and off, which is one of the reasons why the company recommends leaving the RDS constantly on.

Wrong, try again. Have you ever considered some people use Aimpoints as their primary optics on home defense or duty rifles/shotguns? That sight needs to be on and ready 24/7. With a Aimpoint you are not fumbling with switches when you need your gun the most.

[mjpjr1]

Wrong, try again. Have you ever considered some people use Aimpoints as their primary optics on home defense or duty rifles/shotguns? That sight needs to be on and ready 24/7. With a Aimpoint you are not fumbling with switches when you need your gun the most.

True, but as he pointed out, the op said it was just for plinking. For a plinking gun, 600 hours is pretty good and not a real concern.

[tacticalcity]

Wrong, try again. Have you ever considered some people use Aimpoints as their primary optics on home defense or duty rifles/shotguns? That sight needs to be on and ready 24/7. With a Aimpoint you are not fumbling with switches when you need your gun the most.

I'm sorry brother, but you're in full-on Kool-Aid mode at the moment.

You definately should not leave your sight on 24-7 even with an Aimpoint. Instead, you install iron sights and have them cowitnessed in the lower 1/3 of your window and know that in that absolute worst case scenerio the ambient light and your irons will save your bacon...because you practiced it routinely enough to know it is true.

Even with an Aimpoint, if you leave it on 24-7 then the day you need it will be the day it actually did run out but you drank so much of the Kool-Aid you developed a false confidence and forgot to put new batteries in it when you needed to. So you had better hope your irons are not only installed, but up. Otherwise you're shooting the tube, and you'd better hope you actually practiced doing that to the point of being consistent doing it.

Battery life is not your only issue of course. I've personally had an Aimpoint T-1 short out on me in the middle of a course. It ran fine for a good while - then started blinking in an out. Most expensive and reliable sight on the market and it proved as reliable as $30 chinese knockoff. Just the math kicking in. No matter how good the QC, electronics can and will fail. That same course somebody's EoTech died for good. So the EoTech fanboys can simmer down as well.

The EoTech is an excellent sight. A great option. So is the Aimpoint. Some people are just so fanatical that they blow the pluses of their favorite completely out or proportion, and do the same to the cons of it's greatest competitor. Anything electronic can fail and battery life is only one of MANY things to consider when choosing a sight. One could argue the EoTech reticle is so much better that it alone warrants it being chosen of the Aimpoint. Many do. Many make the argument the increased window is much more effective. And it is. So honestly, when you add up all the pluses and minuses it is a wash. So you pick the one that in your mind works the best.

Personally, I'll run both. I trust both to be as good as technology can make them...and I have my irons in the up position just in case.

[chead]

Battery life is such a silly argument to make in favor or against any standard optic. If you're worried, how about just replace the battery regularly? Here, let me freak you out: batteries can fail.

I have both an Aimpoint PRO and an EOTech and they both work great. My actual, real life critiques are: The EOTech holo is more prone to blooming if you have even a minor astigmatism (which many people do) and the Aimpoint has a smaller objective and typically a 2 MOA dot rather than the 1/65 inner/outer of the EOTech.

Look through them both and pick the one that fits your budget and you will be happy with it.

[desert dog]

I'm sorry brother, but you're in full-on Kool-Aid mode at the moment. You definately should not leave your sight on 24-7 even with an Aimpoint

Complete crap. A SD gun should always be at the ready with as few manipulations required as possible. Iron sights are useless in a dark house/backyard at night.

Are you an Aimpoint engineer or do you know one???? I doubt it because I spoke with an Aimpoint engineer at SHOT and he stated that the T-1 was manufactured to be left on and at the ready 24/7. Change the cheap battery out every 3-4 years just to be safe.