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Nothing sadder than to see an inventor clinging to an obsolete or failed invention. Now good entrepreneurs apply what they learn and seek out a more successful enterprise.
Now why not build a magnetically coupled gasblock (or adjustable GB). Under normal use, blowback valve is closed, blot action operation. When out of state, add the magnet, valve is open, action is semi-auto. Or use you magnets to hold storage devices to eliminate battle rattle. Heck, a pair can also hold targets in place at the range. There are a lot of options that don't put the buyer at risk. Oh, and one more thing, there is a fine line between defending your invention and arguing with potential customers. The latter is not only immature, its really bad marketing."Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
- Thomas Paine, Common Sense
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
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+1 I could not agree more. The mag magnet thing was really pushing the limits, and I think it is what partially contributed to the mess of anti gun bills we have now.
The guys who created and marketed the "Mag Magnet" are D-bags in my opinion. They could not just leave well enough alone.Comment
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This thread got me thinking about something else. If attaching a magnetic tool to a bullet bottom is like adding a mag release then why do we weld 2" comps, flash hiders to 14.5" barrels? They are already perm added to the barrel till you use a tool to take them off. Even if welded you could take then off like cutting down the barrel of a shotgun. Sure it wont be easy to take off but it can still come off and even not welded you would need a tool. I see a conflict here with the mag release and the welding and am interested to see what the answer is. Sorry about the thread jack.The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!Comment
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Federal law requires a barrel at least 16 inches long. Gizmos to take a shorter barrel to that length have to be permanently attached. "Permanently" means you can't use a tool to remove the gizmo. Saws and cutting torches don't count
Federal law doesn't care about magazine releases, at least so far.
There is no conflict.
For courtesy to OP, avoid thread crapping.
-hankoTrue wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.
Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!
Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain
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[QUOTE=shakeyjake;12097877]Anyone heard of a Supertool?
Yes it's the OP for trying to get us all into trouble!Comment
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Who's thread crapping? Think about what is happening here with this magnet thing. If you attach the devise to the bullet bottom it is considered part of the rifle even though it can simply be removed by hand VS A 2" muzzle device that needs tools to take if the barrel. The laws are so messed up they have us messed up. Granted one is Fed and the other State but really look at the argument. If they say the muzzle device is not permanently on the barrel because it not "welded" or what even then it's wrong. So how is a magnet that is not perm attached to a rifle wrong? If the magnet IS considered perm attach just cause it's a magnet then how come a muzzle devise that you will at the very least need one tool to put on not perm? The real issue here is the confusion on the laws and how they keep us guessing while they are free to interpret them as they like. I have noticed that there is almost no black and white laws anymore especially when it come to gun laws. Also how do saws and touches not count? People have remove welded muzzle devices and replaced them with new anyway. Last thing shouldn't this thread be moved to the 2A spot by now?Federal law requires a barrel at least 16 inches long. Gizmos to take a shorter barrel to that length have to be permanently attached. "Permanently" means you can't use a tool to remove the gizmo. Saws and cutting torches don't count
Federal law doesn't care about magazine releases, at least so far.
There is no conflict.
For courtesy to OP, avoid thread crapping.
-hankoThe liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!Comment
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Your comparison is apples to oranges.
The laws, polices, court tests etc etc that apply to one portion of a firearm do not apply to portions, scenarios etc etc
Your logic is as follows
Bats can fly
Bats are mammals
thus: all mammals can flyThe California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile
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The thread crap comment is obvious sarcasm directed toward the OP. The distinction between permanently attached versus attached was explained previously but I'll reiterate. Basically mlevans66, the muzzle device must be permanently attached if it is necessary to meet the 16" requirement per Federal law. A magnetic flash hider could be used on a 16" barrel (but not a 14.5") though it wouldn't be wise as it would likely fall off under firing concussion. A "tool" ceases to become one when it attaches to the rifle; then it is simply a part of the rifle. There is no requirement here that the part be permanently attached. It simply becomes part of the rifle if it is attached to it in any way.Crime rate per 100k peopleOriginally posted by Mitch
General population: 3,817
Police officers: 108
Legal CCW: 18
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I was fishing the interweb and here searching for cases regarding magnets. Just curious. They're at all the shows. So, i stumble upon this thread and I'm shocked. Not once did this guy try to sell his product and was accused of doing so. He didn't even start the thread! And why should he have identified himself as being connected with it? You can't have a conversation without revealing who you are? Why would that be important? It's a conversation! Who cares if he owns all of those companies, It's just a conversation!!
And...He's brand new (as clearly stated by the "joined" date) and had no clue who the President was who didn't identify himself either. Same logic not applied?
I understand people trying to keep a low profile, protect others that might be ignorant and want to push the limits and keep a respectable, law abiding, safe message board for responsible gun owners...but this type conversation exposed me to the type of mob mentality we are trying to fight against in our legislation.
That is dishonorable.
Or, maybe I'm just too green when it comes to message boards and **** talking.
Just my opinion.Last edited by Blackcast; 09-01-2013, 1:32 AM.Comment
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looks like GreenOne gave up.
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IPSICK - this has nothing to do with this thread, I just wanted to say I like your Malcolm X quoteComment
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Like I didn't see that coming.
Seriously, though. Am I wrong? Read through the entire thread!
IPSICK, you sound like our CA legislators. "let's dismiss, discount, assassinate the character of and not represent this group of people (or in my case, person), because they are questioning what's happening here and are not compliant with the popular opinion."
Way to go.Last edited by Blackcast; 09-01-2013, 3:24 PM.Comment
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