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  • GoingPro
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1451

    problem with sights or barrel?

    This is what my rear sight is set to (far left).... i have a troy rail installed is it possible that because of installing this rail caused it to be uneven? any input would be appreciated thanks fellas.
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    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57143

    That is within the Milspec.
    It is possible that you could get the rear sight more centered if your front sight were more centered.
    It is possible that your front sight is to the left because if the barrel installaion technique that was used.
    Randall Rausch

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    • #3
      tal3nt
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 3168

      That's not all that off center

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      • #4
        MrPlink
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2010
        • 12532

        Could be the shooter too.
        Your technique (or possibly eyesight) could require that setting to achieve zero.
        I dont know what your level of experience is, but you can test this out easily by putting someone else behind the gun that is a known competent shot and see what happens.

        Ultimately, it's all about function and results. If your point of impact matches your point of aim then everything is working as it should.
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        • #5
          SB1964
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 4876

          Likely that your front sight is canted. I've seen a lot worse, as in rear sight fully left/right & still not shooting properly.
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          • #6
            GoingPro
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 1451

            I had a few other shooters shoot it..... The front and rear sights are mfg. By troy. It annoys me makes me feel like something is slightly off. Ill take it to agun smith and see.
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            • #7
              G60
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3989

              lord...
              "Any unarmed people are slaves, or are subject to slavery at any given moment." - Dr. Huey P. Newton

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57143

                Originally posted by GoingPro
                I had a few other shooters shoot it..... The front and rear sights are mfg. By troy. It annoys me makes me feel like something is slightly off. Ill take it to agun smith and see.
                Is the front sight mounted on a rail?
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #9
                  GoingPro
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1451

                  Yes all the way up front.
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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57143

                    Originally posted by GoingPro
                    Yes all the way up front.
                    Is the rail square to the receiver?
                    If so, then your barrel is a little bent.
                    Getting your rear sight zero fixed is going to be a matter of swapping in new barrels until you get lucky and one lines up with where your sights are pointed when the rear sight s centered.

                    It would be much easier to fix this with a front sight mounted on the barrel where you can tweak it left-right...
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                    • #11
                      russ69
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9348

                      Pretty normal stuff, it's not that far off. If you were shooting 1000 yard matches with the rifle you would want to have it centered a little closer but short of that you are OK.
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                      • #12
                        Thorax
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 915

                        With the way these AR parts are being banged out by UNQUALIFIED manufacturers that kick them out far too fast to even consider quality control.....

                        Then they get assembled by someone reading directions off the internet....

                        Do you really expect it to be a flawless execution of accuracy, function, and aesthetics ????

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                        • #13
                          Merc1138
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19742

                          Originally posted by Thorax
                          With the way these AR parts are being banged out by UNQUALIFIED manufacturers that kick them out far too fast to even consider quality control.....

                          Then they get assembled by someone reading directions off the internet....

                          Do you really expect it to be a flawless execution of accuracy, function, and aesthetics ????
                          There's also a matter of unrealistic expectations from people regarding things like having sights mechanically centered even though there is no need for it.

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                          • #14
                            Thorax
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 915

                            Originally posted by Merc1138
                            There's also a matter of unrealistic expectations from people regarding things like having sights mechanically centered even though there is no need for it.
                            That is not an unrealistic expectation if quality control is attended to on all fronts (manufacturing and assembly).

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                            • #15
                              Merc1138
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19742

                              Originally posted by Thorax
                              That is not an unrealistic expectation if quality control is attended to on all fronts (manufacturing and assembly).
                              It is when it's within acceptable limits. Manufacturing and assembly have nothing to do with the possibility that it needs to be shifted because of the OPs eye position, and adjustments for such differences in people are why the sights are adjustable. Having to adjust a sight a few clicks to zero it is a non-issue unless you've got some sort of silly OCD. If it's so far off that you can't hit anything with it like CJ5&G23 mentioned with his own upper, then you've got a problem.

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