BCM BCG - Totally shocked by BCM

[weespeed]

Lmao at someone saying BCM hasn't proved **** in the real world.

They are in current use with numerous law enforcement agencies across the US. They are in use with private security contractors in hostile spots around the world. They have been vetted by numerous trainers in the community. Their owner and founder is a former Marine and has built his reputation by offering a quality product, at a fair price, and standing behind it.

As a business owner, you should know that no matter how good you are, you can never please every customer 100% of the time. The OP is a prime example of that.

Also, anything man made can break or be defective.

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What have they proved? That some leo's buy their stuff? Get back to me when they are used in real combat and not for training excercises.

And as a business owner that is not Apple or any fortune 500 co. I value my customers. It's had dealing with people. One of the business I owned was a club. You know how hard it is to please drunks. But I do. If they say my drink is weak, I pour a little more. IF they complain, I try and fix it. I can't afford bad word of mouth. Someone says we are racist or that our club sucks, we lose customers. It adds up. The only time I black list a customer is if they steal or cause trouble, like a fight or something. That affects my bottom line.

The OP did not do any of that For them to do what they did is bad business. Period.

[weespeed]

Really?? Last I checked, Colt was one of most recommended manufacturers, and for a very good reason.

Try posting something like, should I buy a colt. You will get a ton of replies about how it's just a name and you can do better with DD,LMT, etc....
Yet not one of those companies are as proven as colt.

[MXRider]

Perhaps you should research what you talk about before putting your foot in your mouth. These rifles are in use with those who take them into harms way on a daily basis in current war zones. Don't believe me? Perhaps a bit of research on arfcom, m4c, lightfighter, socnet, etc would do you some good.
Also, as has already been established, the rifle was functional in BCMs hands. How can a company fix what isn't broken?

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[RT13]

^^^Very entertaining thread indeed. The funniest is from those who are bashing BCM, lol. I doubt atleast half the posters in here even read the OP's original thread. As others have stated which I won't repeat, the problem seems to be the lack of experience of the OP with the rifle. And BCM already knows and can already see where dealing with this customer has and will probably eventually lead to. They have tried to help andeven revund the OP, but sometimes its just pointless. You guys knocking, blaming or bashing on BCM as a company of their products are either clueless, jealous or have a personal beef with them. Why else would you then, lol?

[MXRider]

Try posting something like, should I buy a colt. You will get a ton of replies about how it's just a name and you can do better with DD,LMT, etc....
Yet not one of those companies are as proven as colt.

Funny you would bring up LMT considering they are one of the largest actual manufacturers of rifles and parts for numerous other companies. They also have many DOD contracts for items like the M203 grenade launcher as well as the current precision rifle manufacturer for the Royal Marines.

Yeah, not proven at all.

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[pharazon]

Imagine, if you will, if BCM blacklisted every customer that had a problem with one of their products. Don't you think we'd hear more about it?

So either the black listing doesn't happen very often, or their products don't fail very often..

Maybe both.

[weespeed]

Perhaps you should research what you talk about before putting your foot in your mouth. These rifles are in use with those who take them into harms way on a daily basis in current war zones. Don't believe me? Perhaps a bit of research on arfcom, m4c, lightfighter, socnet, etc would do you some good.
Also, as has already been established, the rifle was functional in BCMs hands. How can a company fix what isn't broken?

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How am I putting my foot in my mouth??
Like I said BCM ain't nothing compared to Colt or HK. Tell me how they are better please do. Please tell me why they are so great that people defend them when OP ordered a bcg and was cancelled for something in 2010. Tell my why they hold a grudge against him/her when he/she bought a lower to see if it wasn't because of the S&W lower.
Sorry BCM is just another company that buys stuff and puts it together and gets people to drink the kool-aid.
Please tell me what skirmish or war was bcm bought by a government to use in said skirmish, by their soldiers.
I'll wait to hear your answer.

[weespeed]

Funny you would bring up LMT considering they are one of the largest actual manufacturers of rifles and parts for numerous other companies. They also have many DOD contracts for items like the M203 grenade launcher as well as the current precision rifle manufacturer for the Royal Marines.

Yeah, not proven at all.

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Read what i quoted.
What has any of those companies done that proves them better than Colt. I'll be waiting for your answer.

[MXRider]

How am I putting my foot in my mouth??
Like I said BCM ain't nothing compared to Colt or HK. Tell me how they are better please do. Please tell me why they are so great that people defend them when OP ordered a bcg and was cancelled for something in 2010. Tell my why they hold a grudge against him/her when he/she bought a lower to see if it wasn't because of the S&W lower.
Sorry BCM is just another company that buys stuff and puts it together and gets people to drink the kool-aid.
Please tell me what skirmish or war was bcm bought by a government to use in said skirmish, by their soldiers.
I'll wait to hear your answer.

Again, since you seem to have some beef with BCM for whatever reason, research the companies history and who has used them on any one of the four websites I listed. You are continuing to ignore facts based on your own bias against the company.

Also, nowhere did I say they were better than anyone. They build a rifle that is part for part the same spec as a Colt 6920 and they have been proven reliable through years of testing. Where they stand above, say, Colt or HK, is they offer a wide range of setups to meet the needs of a larger group of users. Their rifles can be ordered in more configurations than nearly any other manufacturer with regard to barrel length, profile, rails, and muzzle devices. In contrast, Colt offers a much more limited range of options, though they are branching further out.

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[MXRider]

Read what i quoted.
What has any of those companies done that proves them better than Colt. I'll be waiting for your answer.

Just to use an example here, but have you seen the LMT MWS .308 precision rifle?

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[weespeed]

Again, since you seem to have some beef with BCM for whatever reason, research the companies history and who has used them on any one of the four websites I listed. You are continuing to ignore facts based on your own bias against the company.

Also, nowhere did I say they were better than anyone. They build a rifle that is part for part the same spec as a Colt 6920 and they have been proven reliable through years of testing. Where they stand above, say, Colt or HK, is they offer a wide range of setups to meet the needs of a larger group of users. Their rifles can be ordered in more configurations than nearly any other manufacturer with regard to barrel length, profile, rails, and muzzle devices. In contrast, Colt offers a much more limited range of options, though they are branching further out.

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I have no beef with BCM. I never said i did. What I have beef is with people defending them like they are the be all end all, when they are nothing more than a bunch of guys that order stuff and put it together.

You seem to love them yet you tell me to look and I see no where that they are used by any government to supply their soldiers to use their stuff in battle.
No where. And yet they are some how awesome.

And No!! They do not stand above Colt or HK. Sorry, if they did they would be in use in wars now. But they are not. No matter how much you want it to be true, they are not the greatest and latest. They are another company that sells gun parts. that's it.

[MattyB]

Try posting something like, should I buy a colt. You will get a ton of replies about how it's just a name and you can do better with DD,LMT, etc....
Yet not one of those companies are as proven as colt.

Then ***** to Colt and tell them their sh it sucks not once but twice and then see how they treat you on the third try.

Seems that most that are on the side of BCM are SUCCESSFUL business owners not because they are fan bois of them but becuase they have had those type of customers.

Ive had 3, yes 3 of those customers out of over 7000 at my business. I know them by name and I can recall every part of my interaction with them, some over 4 years ago. Id repeat the stories but it doesnt matter. Companies have sht customers sometimes and it is better to give them their money back and tell them to take their business elsewhere. I dont have many unhappy ones so the complainers stick out. They sound like the OP.

Sounds to me like when parts were plentiful, OP was willing to ***** and moan but come Firearmaggedon, hes clamoring for whatever he can get and found out that burning bridges doesnt get you across the river.

He insulted BCM and they decided not to deal with him. As a former business owner (you claim to have a few failed ones) I would expect you to understand that there is a point of no return with an unhappy customer. Some just arent able to be satisfied and its better to give their money back and move on to the next person.

[weespeed]

Just to use an example here, but have you seen the LMT MWS .308 precision rifle?

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Even if I did, how does it make them more proven then a Colt or HK? That was what I stated. Nothing.

[pharazon]

And No!! They do not stand above Colt or HK.

If that is YOUR rifle in your avatar, I'm starting to understand where you're coming from..

[MXRider]

Even if I did, how does it make them more proven then a Colt or HK? That was what I stated. Nothing.

It's become clear to me you have no intentions of applying any reading comprehension to what I wrote, nor do you want to research the topics being discussed before participating in them.

Good day.

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