Palmetto Armory Suppliers Revealed

[bollero]

tag for the future

[h0use]

I have been using psa stuff for some time and have never had anything go wrong! I think there stuff is GTG!

[Shmitty619]

I've purchased quite a bit from PSA. no probs here. I wish they would ship a little faster but other than that my stuff has always arrived in mint condition and ready for action.

[peter95]

PSA is great... If you have the time...

[5.56Geo]

PSA is great... If you have the time...

Yea, I ordered an upper on Jan 1st and received it on the Jan 23rd, within the three weeks promised.

...I guess there will always be people that want it a few days after they place their order. Almost all other companies are about 8-12 working day behind on shipping.

[klewan]

Threads like this demonstrate how little actual difference there is between US made rifles. Shoot 1000+ rounds and all of them go bang. How to differentiate between them? You can argue about where they get their parts, since almost all the vendors are just assembling the guns. And they do.

I'd sure like to see the QC fixtures at the assembly point. The one they can put the upper receiver in and measure all the critical dimensions to .001". Or do the same with the trigger parts, or the barrel, or that most important part; the detent spring...Some people have way to much of their ego wrapped up in what they own.

[BruinGuy]

Some people have way to much of their ego wrapped up in what they own.

QFT!

[hatidua]

If it's not just the name, how does BCM justify selling their parkerized bcg with the same specs as many other offerings for $50+ more than everybody else?

Well, for starters, I've never seen a BCM gas key that wasn't staked. I bought one PSA BCG and nobody had taken the trouble to do so. If you can't stake a simple gas key, what else is being skipped?

[5.56Geo]

Well, for starters, I've never seen a BCM gas key that wasn't staked. I bought one PSA BCG and nobody had taken the trouble to do so. If you can't stake a simple gas key, what else is being skipped?

I have seen a gas block on a BCM come loose.

[6point9]

I believe they put out more product than most others. Using the laws of averages twice the product twice the possibilities of having errors/ making mistakes in product shipping and product assembly.

Yea, at times there may be product assembly issues or shorted orders but at the end of the day once that has been fixed the components are TOP tier and work well, even the PTac line works well. That's my $0.02 FWIW.

...now as far as the QC the Palmetto upper box I received had a QC sticker with (4) four inspector initials signed with a ballpoint pen. It looks like they are taking steps to fix any QC issues that may have had.

I guess that's the bigger problem then. Perhaps they should have focused more on QC vs volume (though it seems like they're starting that now)? I'd rather buy from the company who takes the time to make sure I get what I'm supposed to get and that it works as it's supposed to than one who's simply trying to make a buck. Don't get me wrong, I personally have no issues with PSA as I've ordered plenty from them before. I purchased one of their complete uppers right as the scare shortage had started and got a good deal on it even though I had to wait. It came within 4 weeks but by then I had found a stellar deal on a BCM EAG upper and bought that while waiting. I eventually sold the PSA upper after deciding that I didn't need a spare but it seemed solid.

Either way, PSA has earned the rep they made through both the good products they put out at some great prices but also the poor QC they've shown over the last two years or so. Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but it seems that if they were to just tighten up the ship some they'd get rid of the image of being a lower end brand to some and move up the ranks. It's not like BCM, DD and all of those companies started with a great reputation. They simply put out good quality products and built their reputation that way.

[5.56Geo]

I guess that's the bigger problem then. Perhaps they should have focused more on QC vs volume (though it seems like they're starting that now)? I'd rather buy from the company who takes the time to make sure I get what I'm supposed to get and that it works as it's supposed to than one who's simply trying to make a buck. Don't get me wrong, I personally have no issues with PSA as I've ordered plenty from them before. I purchased one of their complete uppers right as the scare shortage had started and got a good deal on it even though I had to wait. It came within 4 weeks but by then I had found a stellar deal on a BCM EAG upper and bought that while waiting. I eventually sold the PSA upper after deciding that I didn't need a spare but it seemed solid.

Either way, PSA has earned the rep they made through both the good products they put out at some great prices but also the poor QC they've shown over the last two years or so. Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but it seems that if they were to just tighten up the ship some they'd get rid of the image of being a lower end brand to some and move up the ranks. It's not like BCM, DD and all of those companies started with a great reputation. They simply put out good quality products and built their reputation that way.

The only way to find out which company has more QC problems is to see their order shipped to order error ratio. If PSA ships 2000 packages a day and has two mistake it would be the same as company X shipping 1000 packages and having one mistake.

The odds are better that PSA will not mess up your order, you may have to wait a few extra days but PSA is a solid company with good product and low prices which is worth the wait for many.

[LBDamned]

I'm still not buying it... They cut costs some where that's what I want to know.


PSA didn't find the magic pixie dust to undercut all other MFG with the same specs and still stay in the black. I've been a machinist and worked in business too long to know better.

They are cutting costs some where that's what I want to know is where and how before I fully jump on the PSA boat.


And before someone says it no it's not JUST the name. Run or help run a business or do financials for a bit. You'll be shocked how quick your material numbers run up before you just mark up for profit. Especially for a machine/parts shop.

sometimes it's not what you know, it's who you know... maybe they have connections? (and yes, there is a significant savings in product costs when you have connections).

[zfields]

sometimes it's not what you know, it's who you know... maybe they have connections? (and yes, there is a significant savings in product costs when you have connections).

Not to mention using local suppliers. Lower/no cost on shipping major/large components saves a TON of money.

[LBDamned]

...now as far as the QC the Palmetto upper box I received had a QC sticker with (4) four inspector initials signed with a ballpoint pen. It looks like they are taking steps to fix any QC issues that may have had.

they started doing the quad check sticker thing quite a while back... I was happy to see that in place... I've ordered many, many, items from PSA and since the checks & balances sticker, I haven't had an issue.

[Red Horn]

they started doing the quad check sticker thing quite a while back... I was happy to see that in place... I've ordered many, many, items from PSA and since the checks & balances sticker, I haven't had an issue.

Sounds like they had some issues with accuracy of items ordered getting shipped correctly. Most posts seem to indicate not recent issues. I'm eager and excited to build my first AR and their name came up as recommended way more often than other suppliers in a thread I started looking for help / advice. I plan to check them first for sourcing my parts and now feel confident in having satisfactory results based off what has been posted in here of recent.