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  • #16
    zfields
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2010
    • 13658

    Originally posted by BHPFan
    He must be really rolling in his grave with his company releasing the SR-556 lately.
    I think he would really cry if he saw the new BX-25 10/22 mags
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    • #17
      Richard Erichsen
      Senior Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2011
      • 1911

      swapping out the stock 300 meter rear sight with a 1000 meter, while it appears that other one you linked didn't bother.
      1000 meter sights on 'any' 7.62x39 mm weapon is an exercise in futility. Of all the modifications, this one has the least value in my opinion. I agree Arsenal trigger parts are superior to Tapco G2.

      Another thing, toward the rear of the rifle there are two holes left open toward the bottom of each side. On the Arsenal you don't see them anymore, because I think they reweld them and then refinish the receiver, while you can clearly see they just put some caps or something on the non-Arsenal. Little stuff like that adds up.
      That is correct, welded and refinished. However, a builder with some welding skills, a welder, a grinder and some enamel paint can do the same thing.

      All that said, my favorite AK is the Saiga I converted myself. I get more enjoyment out of that one, and it was fun customizing it how I wanted it.
      We agree. If you don't build the rifle yourself, take your time and convert it "properly" - it goes a long way to knowing the rifle in and out and 1/3 of the way to the experience of building one from scratch.

      R
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      • #18
        ainako
        Junior Member
        • May 2012
        • 66

        So so these arsenals have bullet guides too? Just wondering

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        • #19
          bighead
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 655

          Originally posted by zfields
          You do realize The big man at ruger has passed, and the company is switched the way they market and target audience.
          You do realize you are pointing out that companies are capable of changing policies?

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          • #20
            The Right to Bear Arms
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 680

            Good Evening Gentlemen,

            Nutnfancy was right. You can rely on the AK community being passionate about their platform. haha. Good for all of you. I'll be joining.

            I learned more reading this thread than any other I've participated in.

            R

            postscript. May 7.62x39 always be available and accessible to all of us.
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            • #21
              ClickClickPow
              Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 339

              I'm looking into my first AK platform rifle, its sounds like to me, if you are not sure what you want in an AK, but know you want one, the Saiga is a safer bet since your initial investment can be far less costly compared to arsenal. And with trigger time and research, you can pimp it out anyway you'd like. Is that a fair assessment?

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              • #22
                Chaos47
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 6615

                Originally posted by ClickClickPow
                I'm looking into my first AK platform rifle, its sounds like to me, if you are not sure what you want in an AK, but know you want one, the Saiga is a safer bet since your initial investment can be far less costly compared to arsenal. And with trigger time and research, you can pimp it out anyway you'd like. Is that a fair assessment?
                It's not as easy as slapping some new parts on
                Parts, time, tools and some mechanical know how are going to be needed.

                Look up converting a siaga, there are plenty of guides out there that will give you an idea of how much know how and tools you will need to do a conversion.

                There's always prebuilt AK's such as WASRs that are ready to rock and roll..

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                • #23
                  zfields
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 13658

                  Originally posted by bighead
                  You do realize you are pointing out that companies are capable of changing policies?
                  One is due to the death of the person who created the bad policy

                  Vs

                  A company that decided that they wanted to make more money, and still limit what they will sell directly to CA residents. Take off their proprietary maglock, void all warranty. Not exactly CA friendly.
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                  • #24
                    zfields
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 13658

                    Originally posted by The Right to Bear Arms
                    Good Evening Gentlemen,

                    Nutnfancy was right. You can rely on the AK community being passionate about their platform. haha. Good for all of you. I'll be joining.
                    Possibly the only thing he has ever been correct on, and it still probably took him 12 minutes to say it.
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                    • #25
                      nick
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 19143

                      Originally posted by stix213
                      Note that the above mentioned proprietary magazine lock is not on an SGL-21, but instead on the SGL-23. Arsenal also makes a lot of their own parts, so while the non-Arsenal probably uses the Tapco G2 trigger group, the Arsenal will have the Arsenal produced trigger.

                      I have an Arsenal SGL-21 and I'd have to say it is pretty top quality. There are lots of places another company could cut counters if they wanted.

                      For example Arsenal goes over little details like swapping out the stock 300 meter rear sight with a 1000 meter, while it appears that other one you linked didn't bother. Another thing, toward the rear of the rifle there are two holes left open toward the bottom of each side. On the Arsenal you don't see them anymore, because I think they reweld them and then refinish the receiver, while you can clearly see they just put some caps or something on the non-Arsenal. Little stuff like that adds up.

                      All that said, my favorite AK is the Saiga I converted myself. I get more enjoyment out of that one, and it was fun customizing it how I wanted it.
                      Tapco G2 is actually a better FCG than the Arsenal one. It's one of the few good things to come out of Tapco, and Arsenal dropped the ball on their FCG.
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                      • #26
                        nick
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 19143

                        Originally posted by The Right to Bear Arms
                        Good Evening Gentlemen,

                        Nutnfancy was right. You can rely on the AK community being passionate about their platform. haha. Good for all of you. I'll be joining.

                        I learned more reading this thread than any other I've participated in.

                        R

                        postscript. May 7.62x39 always be available and accessible to all of us.
                        You've no idea. My condolences on your future addiction.
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                        • #27
                          bohoki
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 20784

                          which one leaves your brass looking like a double bottle neck

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                          • #28
                            nick
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 19143

                            Originally posted by bohoki
                            which one leaves your brass looking like a double bottle neck
                            Both. It's a feature of Saiga, and it doesn't go away with the conversion.
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                            • #29
                              The Right to Bear Arms
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 680

                              Originally posted by nick
                              You've no idea. My condolences on your future addiction.
                              That's what I like to hear, Nick.
                              " A Republic, if you can keep it ..... " Benjamin Franklin

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                              • #30
                                Dont_Shoot_im_Chinese
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 1488

                                If you are handy, just buy a saiga with the caliber of choice and piece it together yourself with the furniture you like.
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