Best AR-15 for beginners?

[drifter001]

.22 is a rimfire cartridge while the .223/5.56 is a centerfire so just that in inself is completely different....casing size is another huuuuuuuuuuuge difference

[Press Check]

By the way, in my opinion, there's no AR for beginners. Other than caliber, they all essentially feature the same ergonomics. Pick a rollmark and have at it. At the end of the day, a beginners AR is whatever AR you can afford.

[ir0nclash86]

S&W M&P 15 Sport.

[edwardjames]

well most likely you have little/no experience with AR15's and how they function. but we've all been there.

now i can also assume you don't want to spend a whole ton of money (or maybe you do)

but the Smith and Wesson m&p15 would be a good start for buying a complete rifle.. it comes with a warranty and is a fair quality firearm for the price. it wont disappoint for the $

or there's the option of assembling your own. ( this is the route i went as to gain knowledge of the firearm and how its put together)

it might not be for you if you are not mechanically inclined because it takes a bit of work and skills with your hands. but if you're up to the challenge there is plenty of info on the web on the assembly of an AR15 and youtube videos helped me a ton with my build.

good luck on any route you take.

[smurfette]

5.56 is very similar to .223 and for the purposes of this conversation we can say that they are equal.



This is a .223 on the right and .22 on the left. You can see how much gun powder they can hold.

huge difference...

There are several .22 LRs out there that look and feel just like real ARs, and let you shoot for much cheaper than a .223 Remington. However, if you want a real AR it is impossible to go wrong with the S&W Sporters that Leadmaster mentioned. You can find them on sale in the $650 range most of the time. And they come with a lifetime warranty. I am a huge fan of building your own, but I know that isn't for everybody. The S&W gives you a lower price point for an entry rifle, and will stand up to many guns that cost more. And the warranty means that if something goes wrong with it, you have some recourse. Not so with a home build.

-Mb

$650 is my range. I can go up to $1200 cuz originally I wanted to get a Benelli Montefeltro on top of my Remington 870 with Knoxx stock..

You will be able to handle a .223 no doubt. However I can definitely feel a difference between .22 and .223, and in my opinion a good beginner gun is one that you are going to be able to shoot and practice with a lot, and for me I can afford much more .22 to practice with.

I shot a .40 today.. yes I could handle it, but I shot way off the target cuz I anticipated the recoil and the recoil really affected my accuracy..

.22 is a rimfire cartridge while the .223/5.56 is a centerfire so just that in inself is completely different....casing size is another huuuuuuuuuuuge difference

I'm sorry. I don't even know what are rimfire and centerfire.. ><

By the way, in my opinion, there's no AR for beginners. Other than caliber, they all essentially feature the same ergonomics. Pick a rollmark and have at it. At the end of the day, a beginners AR is whatever AR you can afford.

true...

S&W M&P 15 Sport.

thanks!

well most likely you have little/no experience with AR15's and how they function. but we've all been there.

now i can also assume you don't want to spend a whole ton of money (or maybe you do)

but the Smith and Wesson m&p15 would be a good start for buying a complete rifle.. it comes with a warranty and is a fair quality firearm for the price. it wont disappoint for the $

or there's the option of assembling your own. ( this is the route i went as to gain knowledge of the firearm and how its put together)

it might not be for you if you are not mechanically inclined because it takes a bit of work and skills with your hands. but if you're up to the challenge there is plenty of info on the web on the assembly of an AR15 and youtube videos helped me a ton with my build.

good luck on any route you take.

yes, I don't know anything about it. trying to learn..
I won't really have time to learn how to build one cuz I work full time and I am in a band singing and playing keyboard. plus I'm learning guitar with another group. too busy.. but I would like to start learning how to shoot ARs.. @.@

[HK4113]

huge difference...

$650 is my range. I can go up to $1200 cuz originally I wanted to get a Benelli Montefeltro on top of my Remington 870 with Knoxx stock..

I shot a .40 today.. yes I could handle it, but I shot way off the target cuz I anticipated the recoil and the recoil really affected my accuracy..


yes, I don't know anything about it. trying to learn..
I won't really have time to learn how to build one cuz I work full time and I am in a band singing and playing keyboard. plus I'm learning guitar with another group. too busy.. but I would like to start learning how to shoot ARs.. @.@

If you are recoil adverse, there is hardly any caliber with less recoil than .22lr. For $650 you should be able to get your rifle as well as at least couple thousand rounds of ammo.

[smurfette]

If you are recoil adverse, there is hardly any caliber with less recoil than .22lr. For $650 you should be able to get your rifle as well as at least couple thousand rounds of ammo.

I just looked at the S&W MP 15 22. there are so many different ones.. different stocks, different sights.. which one should I get? price is not a problem.. they only go up to $700 something.. I'm looking for easy sight adjustment... less recoil.. thanks!

Thanks!

[HK4113]

I just looked at the S&W MP 15 22. there are so many different ones.. different stocks, different sights.. which one should I get? price is not a problem.. they only go up to $700 something.. I'm looking for easy sight adjustment... less recoil.. thanks!

Thanks!

I bought the california compliant model from buds gun shop and had it shipped to my gun guy in california.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_763_1046/products_id/61689/Smith+%26+Wesson+M%26P15-22+22LR+CA+Compliant

[smurfette]

If you are recoil adverse, there is hardly any caliber with less recoil than .22lr. For $650 you should be able to get your rifle as well as at least couple thousand rounds of ammo.

I bought the california compliant model from buds gun shop and had it shipped to my gun guy in california.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...R+CA+Compliant

yes that one is the first one on the website. $519

wow only $425 on that website

is this one better for me or that Magpul stock and sight is not necessary?

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_773502_-1_757786_757784_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

[HK4113]

yes that one is the first one on the website. $519

is this one better for me or that Magpul stock and sight is not necessary?

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

The magpul version is cool, just harder to find and the magpul grip is sometimes too big for people with smaller hands.

Also BUD's only has non CA compliant MOE rifles and wouldn't ship one into california for me which is why I had to go with the Cali legal version.

You can also modify your rifle later if you wanted to and put on the magpul stock, grip and sights.

[brassbent]

If possible, I strongly suggest taking a training class at your local range and use the rental guns that they have.
That way, you get to see how you'd like to setup your own gun while familiarizing yourself with the controls. In the end, you'll save money because you won't waste cash on mods/accessories that you'll realize you don't need.

You can't go wrong with an AR from a reputable manufacturer like Smith&Wesson or Spikes Tactical.

[smurfette]

The magpul version is cool, just harder to find and the magpul grip is sometimes too big for people with smaller hands.

Also BUD's only has non CA compliant MOE rifles and wouldn't ship one into california for me which is why I had to go with the Cali legal version.

You can also modify your rifle later if you wanted to and put on the magpul stock, grip and sights.

so which sight is better? I'm more concerned about that than the grip.. thanks!

[smurfette]

If possible, I strongly suggest taking a training class at your local range and use the rental guns that they have.
That way, you get to see how you'd like to setup your own gun while familiarizing yourself with the controls. In the end, you'll save money because you won't waste cash on mods/accessories that you'll realize you don't need.

You can't go wrong with an AR from a reputable manufacturer like Smith&Wesson or Spikes Tactical.

I don't know where the training classes are in sf.

thanks.. I'm looking at the S&W guns..

[HK4113]

so which sight is better? I'm more concerned about that than the grip.. thanks!

I prefer the magpul sights.

[smurfette]

I prefer the magpul sights.

is the magpul stock adjustable?