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  • smurfette
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2011
    • 1138

    Best AR-15 for beginners?

    I am looking for an AR-15 but I don't know which one I should get. Please help.
    Thanks!
    Shawty loves shotty
    Benelli Nova 12 28, CZ 75 Nickel 9mm, Remington 870 with Knoxx stock 20 18, Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport 556 NATO, 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250.
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    artoaster
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 1220

    In order to make a better question tell the forum a little about you and even more about how you intend to use the AR-15.


    You generally run out of time before you run out of ammo.

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    • #3
      Leadmaster
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      • Mar 2011
      • 201

      S&W sport?

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      • #4
        h0use
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2009
        • 5783

        build one your self so you can learn everything about the gun.

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        • #5
          HK4113
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1296

          S&W 15-22 period. You can practice for super cheap, super low recoil, operates exactly like a .223.

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            torquefliteterror
            Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 325




            I'm a fan of midlengths gas system Ar's , I like the longer sight raidius ,but still handy short barrel. Here is one I assembled on a Noveske N4 lower with a delton midlength kit. I sent the barrel out to Adco firearms to have it full length fluted.


            Last edited by torquefliteterror; 05-13-2012, 6:43 PM.

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              smurfette
              Senior Member
              CGN Contributor
              • Jun 2011
              • 1138

              Originally posted by artoaster
              In order to make a better question tell the forum a little about you and even more about how you intend to use the AR-15.
              I just started shooting shotguns last year, bought a benelli nova 12 28 but it's too heavy.. couldn't swing it that well.. so I bought a remington 870 20 18 with knoxx spec ops stock.. I have no problems shooting clays with it..
              just tried a Marlins (don't know if I spell it right) bolt action 17 and I think it's very accurate and it has no recoil.. I think it's easy to look through the scope too.. looking for similar gun in AR.. thanks!
              oh.. and I'm just shooting targets and tin cans in 50 and 100 yards

              Originally posted by h0use
              build one your self so you can learn everything about the gun.
              I don't know how to build one ><

              Originally posted by Leadmaster
              S&W sport?
              is it same as the 15-22?
              Originally posted by HK4113
              S&W 15-22 period. You can practice for super cheap, super low recoil, operates exactly like a .223.
              My friend also suggested me to get this one..
              Originally posted by torquefliteterror
              I'm a fan of midlengths gas system Ar's , I like the longer sight raidius ,but still handy short barrel.
              example please?

              Thanks!
              Shawty loves shotty
              Benelli Nova 12 28, CZ 75 Nickel 9mm, Remington 870 with Knoxx stock 20 18, Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport 556 NATO, 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250.

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              • #8
                Press Check
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 4879

                Originally posted by HK4113
                S&W 15-22 period. You can practice for super cheap, super low recoil, operates exactly like a .223.
                The .223 / 5.56 doesn't have any notable recoil either.

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                  HK4113
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1296

                  Originally posted by smurfette
                  oh.. and I'm just shooting targets and tin cans in 50 and 100 yards


                  I don't know how to build one ><


                  is it same as the 15-22?

                  My friend also suggested me to get this one..

                  example please?

                  Thanks!
                  The M&P 15 sport is the .223 version of the 15-22. They are not the same.

                  The 15-22 is lighter and will allow you to shoot targets or cans at 100 yards for much cheaper than a full size .223 ar.

                  20 rounds of .223 costs 6 bucks on the low end, so 15-16 bucks for 100.

                  You can buy 100 rounds of good .22 ammo for 7-8 bucks for like CCI Mini Mags, or you can go to walmart and buy a value pack that has 500 or so rounds in it for 18 bucks. The value pack .22 will run perfectly fine in the 15-22.

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                    smurfette
                    Senior Member
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 1138

                    Originally posted by Press Check
                    The .223 / 5.56 doesn't have any notable recoil either.
                    never heard of 5.56

                    are .22 and .223 a lot different?
                    Shawty loves shotty
                    Benelli Nova 12 28, CZ 75 Nickel 9mm, Remington 870 with Knoxx stock 20 18, Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport 556 NATO, 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250.

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                    • #11
                      HK4113
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1296

                      Originally posted by Press Check
                      The .223 / 5.56 doesn't have any notable recoil either.
                      I will agree that it has very low recoil, especially with the PWS brake I put on mine, however you cannot deny that a .22 has less recoil, its simple physics.

                      m1a1=m2v2

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                        smurfette
                        Senior Member
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1138

                        Originally posted by HK4113
                        The M&P 15 sport is the .223 version of the 15-22. They are not the same.

                        The 15-22 is lighter and will allow you to shoot targets or cans at 100 yards for much cheaper than a full size .223 ar.

                        20 rounds of .223 costs 6 bucks on the low end, so 15-16 bucks for 100.

                        You can buy 100 rounds of good .22 ammo for 7-8 bucks for like CCI Mini Mags, or you can go to walmart and buy a value pack that has 500 or so rounds in it for 18 bucks. The value pack .22 will run perfectly fine in the 15-22.
                        thanks.. .22 is a lot cheaper. but is it similar to .223? recoil wise
                        Shawty loves shotty
                        Benelli Nova 12 28, CZ 75 Nickel 9mm, Remington 870 with Knoxx stock 20 18, Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport 556 NATO, 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250.

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                        • #13
                          HK4113
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1296

                          Originally posted by smurfette
                          never heard of 5.56

                          are .22 and .223 a lot different?
                          5.56 is very similar to .223 and for the purposes of this conversation we can say that they are equal.



                          This is a .223 on the right and .22 on the left. You can see how much gun powder they can hold.

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                          • #14
                            gun toting monkeyboy
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 6820

                            There are several .22 LRs out there that look and feel just like real ARs, and let you shoot for much cheaper than a .223 Remington. However, if you want a real AR it is impossible to go wrong with the S&W Sporters that Leadmaster mentioned. You can find them on sale in the $650 range most of the time. And they come with a lifetime warranty. I am a huge fan of building your own, but I know that isn't for everybody. The S&W gives you a lower price point for an entry rifle, and will stand up to many guns that cost more. And the warranty means that if something goes wrong with it, you have some recourse. Not so with a home build.

                            -Mb
                            Originally posted by aplinker
                            It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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                            • #15
                              HK4113
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1296

                              Originally posted by smurfette
                              thanks.. .22 is a lot cheaper. but is it similar to .223? recoil wise
                              You will be able to handle a .223 no doubt. However I can definitely feel a difference between .22 and .223, and in my opinion a good beginner gun is one that you are going to be able to shoot and practice with a lot, and for me I can afford much more .22 to practice with.

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