223/5.56 ~Vs~ 7.62X39 - Which Caliber is more Affective?

[Cali-Shooter]

Here's the breakdown for right caliber for the job (my 2 cents):

.223/5.56
Use for punching paper, target shooting, and with the right ammo, defense against 2-legged predators. Can also take deer and hog, not preferable though (I don't want thousands of microscopic lead particles that have fragmented in my game meat).

7.62x39
Good for all of the above as .223/5.56, can actually destroy protective cover such as concrete and has good penetration verses vehicles

The 7,62x39 was a good round for engaging vehicles - much better than the 5,56 out of the M4, but my role during missions was that of a Detail Leader, so engaging vehicles was not my top priority.

Source: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8&postcount=15

[Fjold]

One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375

J/K

The 5.56 was developed as a low recoil, lightweight (gun and ammo) for mass troop use. It allows the infantry soldier to be more accurate and carry a larger number of loaded rounds without as much weight penalty.

[BrianRodela]

I don't think the paper really cares. I mean really, if we have to come to actually shooting at people (which 99.99999% of us NEVER will) we have more important things to worry about as a free people! Buy what you can afford to shoot and just be proficient at it.

Oh yeah, also don't forget to bring a friend to increase the numbers of responsible owners!!!!

[sharxbyte]

I find the Russians more affective. Americans are more effective. Did anyone pay attention in class ??

Edit: you can tell when you place them side by side.

I knew I wasn't the only one to notice this...

Punch the hole with 7.62, then tactically insert the 5.56 through the same hole for double effectiveness! =D

[Fern]

So where does the 5.45x39 fall in all of this?

[ConcreteJungle]

i seriously can't believe this thread was started.
it's the biggest pissing contest next to old debate on what's better the AR vs AK.

[Mojaveman]

Agree with some of the others. In an urban enviroment where you might be shooting through mediums, 7.62X39.

In an open area where you might have to take a long shot, 5.56X45.

[repubconserv]

Well, this is just my opinion, but the bigger, the better. Becuase the 7.62 is a bigger round, there will be more power. The qualifier is though that the 7.62 is only 2.06% more powerful than the 5.56. So only 1.5 5.56 bullets will be needed vs 1 7.62. You can not shoot 1.5 bullets though, you would have to shoot 2, so the 2 rounds of 5.56 is 25% more effective than one 7.62, meaning more than 103% greater chance that the threat would be neutralized. also the 5.56 weighs 40% less than 7.62, meaning 350% more 5.56 can be carried. But If you are looking for the most effective round possible against a single threat, it would be the 410 shotgun, with birdshot.

Or you could just accept that size does not matter as much as the hype would have you believe. Go with the cheaper ammo.

[17+1]

And I know AR, M16, M4 guys will tell me how under-powered this round really is. But honestly, it "looks" way more dangerous than the 5.56 next to it.

I think the 7.62X39 would make a good all rounder caliber - which you use for medium size hunting (deer, etc) or even Self defense. And if I was in a critical SD/HD/SHTF situation, I think I would trust the 7.62X39 round more than 5.56.

[DrunkN_MastR]

When SHTF, some peeps will be busy tryin to decide on what caliber to use, while the rest of us will be rackin kills

[MrPlink]

you dont want to be in front of either of em

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[Jpach]

7.62 may be bigger and heavier, but God help your soul if you get nailed with a 5.56 and it frags
Click this link to see the damage that the tiny 5.56 did to a human leg, even though the 7.62x39 "looks so much bigger"

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=17111.0

[orangeusa]

I know it's early, but post of the year right here!

^^^^ holy crap man

[atakacorp]

STOP THIS.....

[jukeboxx13]

i believe the 5.56/2.23 caliber was designed to be a low recoiling round meant for accuracy and bust shoots in order to take out the enemy..there were many test on it back in the 60's and on..if it wasn't a good round the military would have gone to a better one..in real world situations any bullet can kill you and you can possibly survive almost any bullet..