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  • #16
    megavolt121
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1552

    Originally posted by kimbercarry
    would'nt that be a flash suppressor then.

    "any device designed , intended, or that functions to perceptibly reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision"
    No, I have fired some reloaded ammo that shoots fireballs out of the muzzle with a fake can. The same ammo fired out of a normal A2 flash hider gave no fireball.

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    • #17
      Paratus et Vigilans
      In Memoriam
      • Nov 2006
      • 1510

      Wes isn't pulling your chain about the noise and blast from muzzle brakes - he hates shooting next to my muzzle braked builds! I on the other hand derive a kind of sick satisfaction from the extra noise and blast - - but then, I enjoyed playing on the offensive line, too, so that tells you something about my preferences, doesn't it????

      Now Wes, he really digs the fake cans, while to me, they're not all that attractive, but hey, that's the great thing about EBR's, there are so many ways to build and outfit them!

      BTW, Wes, while you were at school, Becky sold me TWO more Stag mb's, and I want one more still!

      What? I couldn't hear what you said . . . damn loud rifles!
      Last edited by Paratus et Vigilans; 11-10-2007, 9:57 AM.
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      • #18
        tenpercentfirearms
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Apr 2005
        • 13007

        Originally posted by Paratus et Vigilans
        Wes isn't pulling your chain about the noise and blast from muzzle brakes - he hates shooting next to my muzzle braked builds! I on the other hand derive a kind of sick satisfaction from the extra noise and blast - - but then, I enjoyed playing on the offensive line, too, so that tells you something about my preferences, doesn't it????
        I forgot about that muzzle brake you had! That thing sucked something completely inappropriate to describe on this family oriented discussion board. Man that was not fun for me, but I think Paratus was enjoying me whine.
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        • #19
          tenpercentfirearms
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Apr 2005
          • 13007

          Originally posted by kimbercarry
          you are right i have never shot with a fake can.i misinterpreted blast for flash which is why i asked the question. i personally like the rra tactical muzzle break. i like how loud and irritating it is. if the fake can gives me a fire breathing dragon then i think i'll get one just because of the intensified flash. what break did paratus have. i want one of those too
          I found the RRA Tactical Muzzle Brake to be the most enjoyable of any brakes I had! The fake can definitely is a fire breating dragon in lower light levels.

          But not like the Mosin!

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          • #20
            Paratus et Vigilans
            In Memoriam
            • Nov 2006
            • 1510

            Originally posted by kimbercarry
            you are right i have never shot with a fake can.i misinterpreted blast for flash which is why i asked the question. i personally like the rra tactical muzzle break. i like how loud and irritating it is. if the fake can gives me a fire breathing dragon then i think i'll get one just because of the intensified flash. what break did paratus have. i want one of those too
            The one Wes really hates is a Mini Y-comp from YHM.
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            • #21
              Paratus et Vigilans
              In Memoriam
              • Nov 2006
              • 1510

              Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
              I found the RRA Tactical Muzzle Brake to be the most enjoyable of any brakes I had! The fake can definitely is a fire breating dragon in lower light levels.

              But not like the Mosin!


              Well, I guess that explains what happened to the Wermacht at Stalingrad!
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              • #22
                NeoWeird
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3342

                Originally posted by Paratus et Vigilans
                Well, I guess that explains what happened to the Wermacht at Stalingrad!
                So everyone pulled up chairs, made smores and talked yesteryear while everything settled down?
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                • #23
                  grammaton76
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                  • Dec 2005
                  • 9511

                  It's worth noting that I ran into a San Diego crime lab guy at the last gun show, who says officers in this area have a tendency to haul people in and let the lab decide whether it's a fake can or a real one.

                  My personal risk/reward meter says that fake cans aren't useful unless you need 'em for OAL...
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                  • #24
                    DedEye
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 8655

                    Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                    If you don't understand what the big deal about muzzle brakes on ARs is, then you have never shot an AR15 with a muzzle brake or stood by someone who has. All the muzzle brakes I sell with the exception of the RRA Tactical Brake are unpleasant to shoot.
                    How does the YHM Phantom muzzle brake with the aggressive end compare to the RRA Tactical brake? What about the YHM Phantom flash hider?
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                    • #25
                      tenpercentfirearms
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 13007

                      Originally posted by grammaton76
                      It's worth noting that I ran into a San Diego crime lab guy at the last gun show, who says officers in this area have a tendency to haul people in and let the lab decide whether it's a fake can or a real one.

                      My personal risk/reward meter says that fake cans aren't useful unless you need 'em for OAL...
                      How in the hell is someone going to not notice the rifling and barrel all the way the length of firearm and that the fake can is obviously an over glorified thread protector? I think this is just FUD scare tactics.
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                      • #26
                        grammaton76
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                        • Dec 2005
                        • 9511

                        Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                        How in the hell is someone going to not notice the rifling and barrel all the way the length of firearm and that the fake can is obviously an over glorified thread protector? I think this is just FUD scare tactics.
                        Well, I did point out the field officers shouldn't have a problem telling a fake one from a real one. But the guy did seem fairly honest though, and stated that it seems that some of the officers use "we need to get a determination on this" as grounds for seizure and hassling.

                        I suspect that it's best viewed in line with with the memo allegedly circulated around SD county, not to attempt AW prosecutions as a primary charge on anything. Alleged silencer isn't an alleged AW charge, so if you don't think a guy's rifle is legit (or he just annoys you or smells bad in general), seize it for a suspected silencer since you can't seize it as an alleged AW.

                        That having been said, I do have a fake can on my PS90 for legal length requirements. I get questions about it, but no real hassles.
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                        • #27
                          mxpatriot51
                          Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 332

                          Originally posted by DedEye
                          How does the YHM Phantom muzzle brake with the aggressive end compare to the RRA Tactical brake? What about the YHM Phantom flash hider?
                          The YHM Phantom is not fun to shoot. The pressure/noise increase is drastic. It works well as far as recoil/muzzle rise is concerned, but even when doubled up on hearing protection it is brutal. I don't use mine anymore.

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