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Do fake cans have any function than just looking good. I am looking to remove the flash hider and either get a fake can or muzzle break.....but I'm not just for looks I want it to preform as well....cheers all!!
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Just for looks. May help dissipate heat from the barrel. I might sell mine and get a muzzle break instead.sigpic -
Fake = doesn't do anything.... Kind of like the titanium shift knob and pedals on your honda accord....
used to cover an ugly barrel and get the SBR look.
used to extend the overall length.
used to permanatly extend an SBR.
used to make a short rifle fit into the rifle rack of a safe....Comment
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I am sorry but these guys are wrong. If any of you have shot a Stag Comp or RRA Military Muzzle Brake, you would know they are not pleasant. The nice thing about the fake can is it not only looks good, but all that blast and noise goes foward, not back at the shooter. I use the Spike's Tactical for my gripless build for the looks and function.www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.Comment
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Originally posted by tony270Originally posted by repubconservOriginally posted by el chivoXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOriginally posted by pjsig
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Pinned fake cans can also bring your short barrel over 16", or 30" OAL, if needed.L.A. County
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"Apathy is the glove into which evil slips its hand." -Bodie ThoeneComment
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It's not the noise, its the blast that you feel.sigpicComment
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I know I should always be wearing hearing protection and usually do but must admit that occasionally I skip it, shooting my AR with a flash-hider is tolerable but when I shoot with my upper that has a compensator on it I get ringing in the ears immediately.Comment
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Also depends on the range you are shooting at. The one I primarily shoot at has a rifle house that's 5-6 lanes wide. Redirecting muzzle blast back into the house isn't a pleasant experience.Comment
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No. You are confusing the visible light flash with the sound or pressure wave generated by the escaping gasses. A "flash suppressor" may redirect gasses in a way that reduces or eliminates the visible muzzle flash the operator sees, while other devices may redirect the gasses in a manner that reduces felt recoil (muzzle brake) and/or moderates the pressure wave formed when the bullet leaves the muzzle (suppressor).would'nt that be a flash suppressor then.
"any device designed , intended, or that functions to perceptibly reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision"
It should be noted that some muzzle breaks do tend to reduce the operator's perception of the sharpness or loudness of the gun firing. Sometimes the side effect of that is that people standing where the gasses are redirected feel the pressure wave more intensely.Comment
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"Apathy is the glove into which evil slips its hand." -Bodie ThoeneComment
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To get back towards the OP's question...
They CAN help the barrel by adding mass and making the barrel less responsive to recoil and vibration. They can also help disipate vibration and make subsequent shots less 'walkable' when done within short time periods. This can also have an adverse effect as once it's moving it will be moving with more force, so on larger rifles it can actually throw off shots if done within a short time period. They also add extra mass to the end of the muzzle that can ake the barrel droop slightly downward. We are not talking anything visible here, maybe a couple thousandths at the worst, but dropping a couple thousandth of barrel muzzle can drop you a couple inches at 100yds and MUCH worse even farther out. In some free states people use them on handguns to add extra mass in the forward portion of the gun to help tame recoil.
Honestly, 90% of people use them for looks and the other 10% are using them as solutions to problems that don't really exist. They DO have their purpose, but they are RARELY ever used for them.quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. - Lucius Annaeus
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If you don't understand what the big deal about muzzle brakes on ARs is, then you have never shot an AR15 with a muzzle brake or stood by someone who has. All the muzzle brakes I sell with the exception of the RRA Tactical Brake are unpleasant to shoot. They are much louder even with ear plugs on and the felt concussion is unpleasant to shoot. Again, you won't understand this until you try it, so saying "it isn't a big deal" when you haven't shot these things is pretty silly.
Again, another person who has never shot an AR15 with a fake can. There is actually more flash, but I never said anything about flash, I said noise and blast. A fake can is no different than having a non threaded barrel.Originally posted by kimbercarry
You are right, it is like having a bare muzzle with no threads. The point of the fake can is you bought an upper with threads and you want to make it featureless for a MMG or U15 build. You might have tried muzzle brakes and found them unpleasant and now you just want something simple, so you buy a fake can.
Guys, I know what I am talking about. I have tested all of these things and here are the results I found.
If you have also done this and you have found that you don't notice a difference, then I can't argue with your preferences. If you have never tried any of this and are giving us your opinions without experience by using logic or reasoning, that isn't very wise or accurate.
I did some tests and I gave my preferences. My friend helping me and I most certainly noticed a difference.www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.Comment
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