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[UNDFTD]

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[drifter001]

as far as i know, no...my brother is 19 and getting ready to buy his first .223 lower

[morrcarr67]

I'm used to buying complete rifles but I think it's time I built my own AR.

Is it true that if you're under 21 you can't get an FFL to do your lower because it *can* be considered a pistol part?

Thanks

In other states that might be a problem because someone can buy any AR lower and build a pistol out of it.

Because of CA DROS rules these lowers are sold as "long guns" and you only need to 18 years old to buy a long gun.

[r6raff]

Umm... unless they changed it recently (like the last month) Lowers are listed as Other and have a minimum age requirement of 21.

This has been discussed numerous times, search and you will see

[Fjold]

In other states that might be a problem because someone can buy any AR lower and build a pistol out of it.

Because of CA DROS rules these lowers are sold as "long guns" and you only need to 18 years old to buy a long gun.

Actually, stripped lowers are not long guns. It's been covered here numerous times. Long guns require a buttstock that's why <21 year olds cannot buy pistol grip (only) shotguns either.

[r6raff]

This guy is making an 80% for instance because he is under 21

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=428176&highlight=age+stripped+lower

[morrcarr67]

Actually, stripped lowers are not long guns. It's been covered here numerous times. Long guns require a buttstock that's why <21 year olds cannot buy pistol grip (only) shotguns either.

I thought "rifles" required a butt stock?

[UNDFTD]

Umm... unless they changed it recently (like the last month) Lowers are listed as Other and have a minimum age requirement of 21.

This has been discussed numerous times, search and you will see

Thanks for the info. Sorry about making another thread.

Screw it I guess I'll stick to pre-mades

[r6raff]

In other states that might be a problem because someone can buy any AR lower and build a pistol out of it.

Because of CA DROS rules these lowers are sold as "long guns" and you only need to 18 years old to buy a long gun.

Also, you can build a pistol in CA I believe, singleshot exemption. I think thats one of the reasons lowers are listed as Other, because they can be either. Don;t quote me on the pistol stuff, im not to privy on that info.

[r6raff]

Thanks for the info. Sorry about making another thread.

Screw it I guess I'll stick to pre-mades

Don't get your hopes up, but I think you may be able to buy a complete lower... Something to look into atleast. Otherwise, there are some decent priced used ARs on the Market place.

[UNDFTD]

Also, you can build a pistol in CA I believe, singleshot exemption. I think thats one of the reasons lowers are listed as Other, because they can be either. Don;t quote me on the pistol stuff, im not to privy on that info.

Quick question, I was skimming that thread and wondering If it was legal to buy an 80% lower and take it to a gunsmith to do the hard work. :P

[dieselpower]

Some FFLs will over look age...some will not. Go talk to some FFLs.

[dieselpower]

Quick question, I was skimming that thread and wondering If it was legal to buy an 80% lower and take it to a gunsmith to do the hard work. :P

no, the one who does the work is the owner. they would then have to sell it to you and use an FFL, you have to wait the 10 days and complete a dros.

Many FFLs will not transfer an unmarked lower or one that was built up from a 80%.

[pontiacpratt]

Quick question, I was skimming that thread and wondering If it was legal to buy an 80% lower and take it to a gunsmith to do the hard work. :P

Yep... 80% are not a firearm so no age requirement if IIRC.
Diesel brought up a good point... if someone else does it it's manufacturing... so I change my answer to no.

[r6raff]

Yep... 80% are not a firearm so no age requirement if IIRC.
Diesel brought up a good point... if someone else does it it's manufacturing... so I change my answer to no.

Actually he can, there are machinists who have CNC machines with the "pattern/design?" already. You go to their shop, put the lower in and YOU push start. As long as you push the button, you machined it yourself and are good to go.

You can NOT send or give the lower to someone else to make and give it back, that is manufacturing and will require a FFL

OP : PM Seems, he was going to help me out with some 80% lowers a while back, if he can't He may know someone who can, or post in the gunsmithing section asking for someone with the equipment who can help you out... it will cost you, probably about 50% more than a standard stripped lower, but you get to personalize it... like write, "got to be 21 my ***"