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  • #31
    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44092

    Originally posted by Pthfndr
    Yes, I was making a point. What you are talking about is NOT generally what's considered zeroing in a rifle/scope combo. The exception might be 50 cal shooters who shoot in the 1000 yard to 2 mile matches, where their starting point is 1000 yards. A zero is a consistent, repeatable starting point. That's why there is the term "no wind zero".


    A hillside? LOL, that's good. Hitting an enormously large object is not being zeroed. But I see your point.
    The person that taught me this held a world record at 1000 yards with some 6mm round (I think). His wife is the one that won a World Championship and held a world record with 50s.

    I never said he should zero at 1000, I suggested that he use this technique at the distance that he is going to be shooting at.
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    • #32
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44092

      Originally posted by xingyun_88
      Is there a "standard" method to find wind value or do you just use a tool to measure the wind speed? Thanks alot guys.
      There are different wind meters that are on the market. Also, you should be watching wind flags to help determine both speed and direction. You should pay attention to wind flags at different intervals between you and your target. Both dirrection and speed can vary as your bullet is traveling down range. Another thing to consider is the topography of the terain that you are shooting over. "Wind" will react differtently depending on how it is traveling along the ground. Again, I'm not an expert and this post reflects the knowlegde that I've gained from my very limited experience.
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      • #33
        Fjold
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        • Oct 2005
        • 22754

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        I tend to disagree with this idea. Why waste ammo? I zero my scope at 1000 yds in two shots and then a third for confirmation. There is no reason to waste time and ammo by working out to longer ranges. Just set your zero to the range that you will be shooting at. First, mount your scope. Next, set up your rifle in a very steady rest (or pair of rests) and pull your bolt out. Look down the bore and adjust the rifle so that it is sighted at the target. Then, without moving the rifle, adjust the scope so that it is aiming at the target. Put the aproximate amount of adjustment, that you think you need, for your given load and distance (For me it is about 28MOA @1000 yards). Now, aim and fire your first shot paying attention to your point of impact. Bring your rifle back into battery and aim at the exact same point on the target. Now, without moving your rifle, "walk" the cross hairs over to your point of impact. Really, your done in one shot but, go ahead and take another shot and do the exact same thing. Fire a third shot just to confirm that your in the "X" ring.


        It sounds to me like you are having problems with either the way your scope is mounted or you have a bad scope. If neither of these is the case, check your ammo and your bore.


        Tell me what optics you use to see your bullet hole (point of impact) at 1,000 yards?
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        • #34
          C.G.
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 8163

          Originally posted by xingyun_88
          Is there a "standard" method to find wind value or do you just use a tool to measure the wind speed? Thanks alot guys.
          7-10 mph shouldn't have affected you that much. But yes, it is nice to have windsocks and windmeter, i. e.

          if you are really serious and are shooting long range. At this stage in the game, I don't think they are necessary for you to have yet, but a good spotting scope and Shoot'n See targets would be useful. That way you can correct without guessing.
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          • #35
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44092

            Originally posted by Fjold
            Tell me what optics you use to see your bullet hole (point of impact) at 1,000 yards?
            It's not hard to see the impact on a berm through one of my NXSs or even my Supersniper. I usually sight in by aiming at clay pigeons on the berm. But, once on paper, we have pit crews pulling targets and putting spotter discs on them.
            Last edited by CSACANNONEER; 08-05-2007, 9:21 PM.
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            • #36
              Pthfndr
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              • Oct 2005
              • 3691

              Originally posted by Fjold
              Tell me what optics you use to see your bullet hole (point of impact) at 1,000 yards?
              He's not saying he can see his bullet hole per se. At a match the bullet hole will be marked with a spotter (assuming it's somewhere on paper) by someone in the target pits. One would then use the spotter as their reference point to get into the X ring (which is 10" at 1000 yards).
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