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  • xingyun_88
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 4

    New to precision shooting-help

    Hey i took my Rem. 700 to the range a few days ago and was having trouble making wind adjustments. I was eventually able to place the shot where i wanted them but it was a hit and miss ordeal. I was woundering the correct way to adjust to windy conditions on the first attempt. Also the bast way to zero your scope. Any other advice is welcomed I'm new to scoped shooting. BTW my adjustments are in MOA. Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by xingyun_88; 08-05-2007, 12:22 AM.
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    adamsreeftank
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 2244

    What distance were you shooting at?

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    • #3
      xingyun_88
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 4

      100 yards

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      • #4
        C.G.
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 8166

        In the absence of precise info, I am sure your scope came with a manual. Might want to read it.
        Last edited by C.G.; 08-05-2007, 1:24 AM.
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        • #5
          five.five-six
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2006
          • 34714

          Originally posted by C.G.
          In the absence of precise info, I am sure your scope came with a manual. Might want to read it.
          be nice..
          that is a good suggestion. yes there is a good way, first of all, your initial zeroing should not be done in the wind. also allow your barrel to cool between shots. you may want to keep a log of your adjustments... also adjust from the center of 3 round groups also 1 MOA at 100 yards is pretty darned close to 1" so a target with a 1" grid is helpful. if your group is 3" high and 2" left and your adjustments are 1/4 MOA... then it is 12 clicks down and 8 clicks right YMMV. you will probably not get that kind of click accuracy in scopes under $750 but it is a good place to start

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          • #6
            rksimple
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2006
            • 6257

            Originally posted by five.five-six
            first of all, your initial zeroing should not be done in the wind.
            Ideally, but where I live, thats never an option as its ALWAYS windy. You can compensate for it by knowing what bullets you're using and velocity. Plug it into JBM or any other ballistics calculator and see what drift is for 100 yards, given your conditions.

            First off, what kind of scope were you using? How hard was the wind blowing? What kind of ammo were you using? Were you using a bipod, bags and/or rear bag? After getting zeroed in wind (at 100 yards) you shouldn't be missing too often. In a steady 10 mph wind, you'll only have about 1.5 inches of drift at 100 yards. If its a hit and miss thing, either you need to use better ammo, check to make sure your mounts are secure, or your technique needs improving. We need some more info to really be helpful.
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              five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34714

              that is a good point, what bullets were you using, a 180 grain .300 win mag is going to move a lot less than a 55 grain 5.56

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              • #8
                5968
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                • Nov 2006
                • 3557

                Might want to try to zero your rifle at a closer distance first too if you didn't bore sight first. Any question feel free to PM me.
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                • #9
                  Jicko
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                  • Dec 2005
                  • 8774

                  Originally posted by xingyun_88
                  Hey i took my Rem. 700 to the range a few days ago and was having trouble making wind adjustments. I was eventually able to place the shot where i wanted them but it was a hit and miss ordeal. I was woundering the correct way to adjust to windy conditions on the first attempt. Also the bast way to zero your scope. Any other advice is welcomed I'm new to scoped shooting. BTW my adjustments are in MOA. Thanks in advance.
                  Post your location, and post your setup. ie. what caliber, what ammo are you shooting.

                  Wind is something to be considered, but generally, you should still be on paper @ 100yds. At 100yds, even at 10mph wind, the drift isn't all that much.
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                  • #10
                    Mute
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8455

                    Also, if possible, do your zeroing when the wind is consistent if you at all possible, assuming you can't do it during low or no wind conditions. 5-10 shots should give you an ideal of where your shots land consistently. If it's all over, then you need to find a way to get consistent groupings to determine where your rifle shoots to. After that, you can make your adjustments.
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                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
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                      Originally posted by 5968
                      Might want to try to zero your rifle at a closer distance first too if you didn't bore sight first. Any question feel free to PM me.
                      I tend to disagree with this idea. Why waste ammo? I zero my scope at 1000 yds in two shots and then a third for confirmation. There is no reason to waste time and ammo by working out to longer ranges. Just set your zero to the range that you will be shooting at. First, mount your scope. Next, set up your rifle in a very steady rest (or pair of rests) and pull your bolt out. Look down the bore and adjust the rifle so that it is sighted at the target. Then, without moving the rifle, adjust the scope so that it is aiming at the target. Put the aproximate amount of adjustment, that you think you need, for your given load and distance (For me it is about 28MOA @1000 yards). Now, aim and fire your first shot paying attention to your point of impact. Bring your rifle back into battery and aim at the exact same point on the target. Now, without moving your rifle, "walk" the cross hairs over to your point of impact. Really, your done in one shot but, go ahead and take another shot and do the exact same thing. Fire a third shot just to confirm that your in the "X" ring.


                      It sounds to me like you are having problems with either the way your scope is mounted or you have a bad scope. If neither of these is the case, check your ammo and your bore.
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                      • #12
                        rksimple
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                        • Jan 2006
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                        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                        I tend to disagree with this idea. Why waste ammo? I zero my scope at 1000 yds in two shots and then a third for confirmation.
                        1000 yards!? Holy crap! I think you meant 100.
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                        • #13
                          CSACANNONEER
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                          • Dec 2006
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                          Originally posted by rksimple
                          1000 yards!? Holy crap! I think you meant 100.
                          No, I mean ONE THOUSAND YARDS! You are free to come play with us at an FCSA match 8-17 through 8-19 outside of Reno.
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                          • #14
                            Pthfndr
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                            • Oct 2005
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                            Originally posted by rksimple
                            1000 yards!? Holy crap! I think you meant 100.
                            No, I think he really meant 1000 yards. He said that's 28 MOA elevation for him. That's about right for some cartridges.

                            That's the nice thing about the internet. Someone can claim something and there's no way to make them prove it.
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                              CSACANNONEER
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                              • Dec 2006
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                              Originally posted by Pthfndr
                              No, I think he really meant 1000 yards. He said that's 28 MOA elevation for him. That's about right for some cartridges.

                              That's the nice thing about the internet. Someone can claim something and there's no way to make them prove it.
                              No, but, since you are in the Sierras, if you feel like dropping down to Reno in a couple of weeks. Come out to Palimino Valley Gun Club and watch this meathod being preformed by several different world record holders. If you can show up Fri. 8-17, I'll let you shoot a round or two at 1000! PM me for details.
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