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Anyone ever messed with the idea of a tube fed 9mm AR?

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  • frigginchi
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1160

    Anyone ever messed with the idea of a tube fed 9mm AR?

    Anyone?
  • #2
    shark92651
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Oct 2006
    • 5431

    Where would the tube go?
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    • #3
      Dirtbiker
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 2810

      And why would you want this?
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      • #4
        ZombieHunter90
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 106

        Yeah, makes me wonder why you'd even want one.

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        • #5
          frigginchi
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1160

          Why do I want anything? I'm crazy and crazy has no reason. Maybe I like the ergos of the AR platform but don't want to deal with 10rd mags or some non pistol grip thing. Anyhow, it looks like you can cram 15+ 9mm rds in a tubular mag.

          As for where to put it. Maybe under the barrel like a Marlin 60. It's just an idea. Whether it comes into fruition is another thing.


          Originally posted by Dirtbiker
          And why would you want this?
          Maybe something like this. I dunno if it will even work but just a thought.
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            civilsnake
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 2261

            What you're talking about entails literally an entirely new weapon. If you look at the dimensions involved, it's just not feasible. The tubular magazine would not fit under the handguard and still clear the barrel nut. If you move it down to clear the nut, you're now in the lower receiver. In the lower there's not enough room to implement the loading ramp mechanism as far as I can tell.
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            • #7
              AJAX22
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2006
              • 14980

              You could make it feed along the left side of the upper, but it would require substantial re-engineering, and would add moving parts to the system and more potential failure points
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              • #8
                Barabas
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 3370

                I'd rather see Marlin re-release the Camp Carbine with a tube mag than some butchered AR tube fed monstrosity.

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                • #9
                  frigginchi
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1160

                  Maybe you should hit them up then

                  Originally posted by Barabas
                  I'd rather see Marlin re-release the Camp Carbine with a tube mag than some butchered AR tube fed monstrosity.

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                  • #10
                    Barabas
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3370

                    Haha. Sorry for crapping your thread.

                    I'm just having a hard time seeing how a tube fed AR would work, unless perhaps it was set up like the AR57 with the mag on top. Marlin already has it figured out for their .22's, extending it to the camp carbine concept (say that ten times fast) just makes sense, esthetically, ergonomically, mechanically. I'm going to go write them a letter, thanks for the suggestion.

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                    • #11
                      AJAX22
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                      • May 2006
                      • 14980

                      Screw that, of they re release the camp carbine they just need to make it take glock mags
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                      • #12
                        bjl333
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                        • Dec 2009
                        • 7010

                        The tube can go anywhere. Its just the feeding mechanism has no room to go. Instead of a simple mechanical thing like a spring pushing the rounds up, you'll need to somehow scoop the round out of the tube and into the chamber. There just isn't enough room in the existing design to put all these additions into it.
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                          frigginchi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1160

                          No worries. Sometimes ya gotta think outside the box. It's un-American to not think outside of the box

                          Originally posted by Barabas
                          Haha. Sorry for crapping your thread.

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                          • #14
                            civilsnake
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 2261

                            How about a magazine that runs above the receiver and all the way back into the spine of a fixed stock? Change it to a side charger and have the magazine run above the buffer tube.
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                              ke6guj
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Originally posted by frigginchi
                              Why do I want anything? I'm crazy and crazy has no reason. Maybe I like the ergos of the AR platform but don't want to deal with 10rd mags or some non pistol grip thing. Anyhow, it looks like you can cram 15+ 9mm rds in a tubular mag..
                              but since it can't be over 10-rounds, why would a 10-round tubular mag be better than a 10-round box mag that can be removed with a tool?
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