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  • #16
    bballwizard05
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3323

    AR is like legos (not that they are plastic, but that they can be pieced together relatively easy) lol i'm surprised no one has mentioned saiga yet!! they are cheap, so the left over money can be used to convert. They are awesome and mags are way cheaper than mini-14 mags, and they can be converted to use standard .223 ak mags which are cheapppp!

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    • #17
      Linh
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 1246

      Originally posted by Crazy4Guns
      I don't know squat about building guns, is it relatively easy or could I have someone build it for me at a gun shop perhaps?
      When people say build in ref to AR in CA. It's more of how you have it setup and not like the standard building.

      Just buy a new AR that is already setup the way you want it.

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      • #18
        Hispeed1
        Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 271

        If its your first AR, I suggest buying a factory built one. If you want another, build one. $600 is a bit tight to buy a used factory one or build one, but I think its possible. Good luck! Have fun with Black Rifle Disease = )

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        • #19
          Echidin
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 3057

          Originally posted by Lead-Thrower
          Bolt-action: Remington 700 (lots of variants of this one) or Savage 10FP
          Autoloader: Mini-14 or AR-15

          Best bang for your buck is probably the Remington...

          I had a Savage 10fp in .223 a while back, great rifle.

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          • #20
            Crazy4Guns
            Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 297

            Originally posted by Hispeed1
            If its your first AR, I suggest buying a factory built one. If you want another, build one. $600 is a bit tight to buy a used factory one or build one, but I think its possible. Good luck! Have fun with Black Rifle Disease = )
            Any specific recommendations?
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            • #21
              Mr_Monkeywrench
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 2366

              Here you go. Here is a pretty in depth review of the Kel Tec SU 16

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              • #22
                Lead-Thrower
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 780

                Another option is to buy your upper and lower receivers separately. I am not saying build your lower receiver (although you can if you want), but rather buy a fully assembled lower with stock, grip, and lower parts kit installed. This way, all you have to do is slap the upper and lower together and you are done. This will give you more options. While you are limited to the lower receivers you can buy, you are not really limited when it comes to uppers (which also happens to be the business half of the rifle).

                If you want a recommendation as to which AR-15 to buy, I would recommend Stag. They are excellent quality at a good price... very good for a starter AR.

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                • #23
                  Crazy4Guns
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 297

                  Originally posted by Mr_Monkeywrench
                  Here you go. Here is a pretty in depth review of the Kel Tec SU 16

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaqPo...eature=channel
                  The Kel Tec SU-16 is looking like a pretty good option along with some ar mags.
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                  • #24
                    j4strngr
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 347

                    The mini is great choice but I have to agree for that price range an AR type is far more durable, custom, better looking, easier to clean... Just a better choice

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                    • #25
                      Crazy4Guns
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 297

                      Originally posted by j4strngr
                      The mini is great choice but I have to agree for that price range an AR type is far more durable, custom, better looking, easier to clean... Just a better choice
                      Is the Kel Tec SU-16 considered an AR type?
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                      • #26
                        Linus
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1290

                        Originally posted by Crazy4Guns
                        Is the Kel Tec SU-16 considered an AR type?
                        No its considered a Crap type.

                        Seriously don't buy a Kel Tec, its not worth it. Your just gonna regret not saving enough for an AR or simply going with a Remington 700 sps.

                        That being said, go for a Remington 700 sps-V if you budget is around $600. You won't have to save extra for an AR and you'll have an extremely reliable and well built rifle. Definitely the most bang for your buck.
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                        • #27
                          thayne
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 2289

                          Originally posted by j4strngr
                          The mini is great choice but I have to agree for that price range an AR type is far more durable, custom, better looking, easier to clean... Just a better choice
                          I wouldnt say an ar is more durable or easier to clean than a mini-14. The mini is rock solid durable and doesnt get nearly as dirty so it easier to clean.
                          "It wasn't a failure of laws," said Amanda Wilcox, who along with her husband, Nick, lobbies for the California chapter of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "I just don't see how our gun laws could have stopped something like that."

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                          • #28
                            thayne
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 2289

                            Originally posted by Lead-Thrower
                            Another option is to buy your upper and lower receivers separately. I am not saying build your lower receiver (although you can if you want), but rather buy a fully assembled lower with stock, grip, and lower parts kit installed. This way, all you have to do is slap the upper and lower together and you are done. This will give you more options. While you are limited to the lower receivers you can buy, you are not really limited when it comes to uppers (which also happens to be the business half of the rifle).

                            If you want a recommendation as to which AR-15 to buy, I would recommend Stag. They are excellent quality at a good price... very good for a starter AR.
                            Thats what I'm doing. Spreading the cost out It looks like mines going to be right around $1400 when its done, not including a scope That includes 6 magazines though
                            "It wasn't a failure of laws," said Amanda Wilcox, who along with her husband, Nick, lobbies for the California chapter of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "I just don't see how our gun laws could have stopped something like that."

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                            • #29
                              Linus
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1290

                              Originally posted by Lead-Thrower
                              Another option is to buy your upper and lower receivers separately. I am not saying build your lower receiver (although you can if you want), but rather buy a fully assembled lower with stock, grip, and lower parts kit installed. This way, all you have to do is slap the upper and lower together and you are done. This will give you more options. While you are limited to the lower receivers you can buy, you are not really limited when it comes to uppers (which also happens to be the business half of the rifle).

                              If you want a recommendation as to which AR-15 to buy, I would recommend Stag BCM or Daniel Defense . They are excellent quality at a good price... very good for a starter AR.
                              Fixed if for ya.
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                              • #30
                                bjl333
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                                • Dec 2009
                                • 7010

                                Where do you live Crazy? I have an new AR15 I was gonna post for sale that might fit you bill. Shoot me a PM.
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