ACR vs FN SCAR vs H&K 416

[UserM4]

I think that as far as "proven" is concerned, HK has the other gas pistons beat. It's been in service since like 2005 amirite?

[Toolbox X]

ACR over SCAR anyday

Shoot both rifles and report back. Then I might respect what you have to say.

[CombatMP]

Shoot both rifles and report back. Then I might respect what you have to say.

Whatever you say I don't need your respect. BTW I have fired both rifles. ACR all day over SCAR.

[cmace22]

Whatever you say I don't need your respect. BTW I have fired both rifles. ACR all day over SCAR.

Care to enlighten us on why you say that.

[SixPointEight]

being a civilian and not needing extreme combat proven effectiveness...I'd get the ACR. The H&K is priced retarded high, and the SCAR is just BLEH. The ACR has a certain sexiness about it. And while the selector might feel cheap, the shell deflector may fall off, and it might be a bit front-heavy, that can all be fixed.

[UserM4]

I don't know how much the HK is but apparently it's really high. I think the ACR is absurdly high too. And Hitler agrees with me.

[MichaelKent]

From Army / Defense Industry Daily testing (2008):

Extreme Dust Test III stoppages broken out by weapon (Colt M4, HK 416, FN SCAR, and HK XM-8)...



* 882 jams, 1 jam every 68 rounds, again using heavy lubrication. In addition all 10 of the M4 barrels needed to be replaced, and a number of their parts were replaced during the test. None of the cold hammer forged HK416 and XM-8 barrels needed replacement.

The HK416 is a modified M4 carbine, which can be and has been converted from existing rifles. Used by US Special Forces.

* 233 jams, 1 jam every 257 rounds, 3.77x more reliable than the M4.



* 226 jams, 1 jam every 265 rounds, 3.85x more reliable than the M4



* 127 jams, I jam every 472 rounds, 6.95x more reliable than the M4.

What I've really learned from this thread, and all the information posted in it, is that the Military shouldn't have canceled the XM-8 program...

Apparently H&K is still working on the XM-8. If it's as reliable and effective as the tests seem to indicate, I would love to see it released for civilian use.

[CombatMP]

Care to enlighten us on why you say that.

Let me put it this way, if I ever go back to the sandbox and can choice between an ACR or a SCAR to bring to combat. I will bring the ACR, just my preference. I not here to start a debate or to enlighten anyone about anything.

[cmace22]

Let me put it this way, if I ever go back to the sandbox and can choice between an ACR or a SCAR to bring to combat. I will bring the ACR, just my preference. I not here to start a debate or to enlighten anyone about anything.

Then you achieved your goals.

[Endless]

How about a Colt 6940 with Hk accessories? lol....The upper is also nice....(not pictured of course)

[damndave]

I went with the ACR over the SCAR because of the price and features I do not really need. The folding stock really can't be used in CA and the rails I do not need. The $600 price difference on what I paid helped make the decision too. Can't wait till they come out with the different caliber barrels.

The only thing I do not like about the ACR is the weight.

[lehn20]

The HK416 is not as reliable as people think. There has been tons of issues with broken bolts also on issue rifles to special teams lately. Don't drink the koolaid.

A well built, well lubed DI gun will keep up with any ACR/SCAR/HK416